Photo gripe

[hey,littlecobra]

yeah, i can see that MANY of us know nothing about pic size, resizing. That does offer some comfort, but this IS a big mess!
So... are we going to be able to 'buy off the boss' and buy our way into bigger galleries??? hmmmmmmmmm I'm interested!
Guess i'll go check out photobucket, too.
I hate that!!!!
I know HOW to resize, it took me forever to figure it out, but i cannot imagine going in and resizing my zillion pics.
what a dilemma!
I am happy to send a thank you contribution to Brent for the site; and i guess his 'thank you' back to us is a bigger gallery of 100megs. That's great, thank you, but how about hmmmm like 1000??? (I'm close enought to it already. )

what a chore!!!!!

hey, whatdya do with my 'cobra goddess' title, now it says 'Senior Club Cobra Member'????????

[Ron61]

Rwilla4,

Setting the new cameras to the highest setting is a total waste of time, battery power and space on your memory card unless you are a professional photographer. I use a mid range setting and print 8 X 10s that are very good. If you are going for larger, then I agree with you. Most of my pictures are in the 900 to 1.5 mb range and are easy to downsize to post. If I do run into something special that I want a high rez picture of then I will set mine higher for those pictures.

Kristen,

You need to get your own server and put your pictures on it. As for your Cobra Goddess Title, that has been replaced with Senior Member because the Mt. Shasta Goddess has taken over.

Ron

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by ZOERA-SC7XX

Before this mess I had no knowledge of megs or 800k/80k per image. I'm a car guy, and the camera worked just fine out of the box. My 35 mm SLR was easy to use but a pain in the ass to develop photos just for me to look at.
As far as Fotki is concerned, I pay 30 bucks a year for keeping all my photos there, including my car stuff. I thought linking to my Fotki site reduced the image size?
I came here because I'm into Cobras and Ford stuff. I enjoy all the other galleries and hope other guys like mine. If you want me to delete all my stuff here, just say so. And what's this 'contributing member' all about? I'd never heard about being a paid member before. If you want some money for membership (or the privilege of a photo gallery), just say so also and I'll send a check. As far as megs and pixels, I'm just starting to learn about resizing my pics and just the other day changed the setting on my camera. The hard part is not knowing what's going on until something changes here. I'm still not sure how to correct my photo issues here, but I don't think I'm alone. You should be a little more understanding of those with less website constructing than yourself.

Hold on, hombre.

There has been a sticky at the top of this page since May, 2006 which Ron went out of his way and took great effort in detailing how to attach directly to posts and how to use the gallery, with very specific instructions and guidelines about picture sizing. Since you're a "car guy" and may not be able to figure out how to scroll to the top of the page for this forum...here's the link:

Link to thread for "car guys" who can't see the top thread of the All Cobra Talk page!


That sticky thread replaced a previous one that had been up there for at least two years before that.

There are two other recent threads regarding the Gallery in the sticky area.

There has been a fundraising drive every year at this site since at least 2001.


Hope this helps...

[Jamo]

For those of you who don't want to use the link or to scroll up to the top of All Cobra Talk...I copied the very first post from May, 2006 for your reading convenience.

For those of you who can't read, please PM me your telephone number and I will read it to you. If you are hard of hearing, I will compensate for that.






Tips on Picture Uploads and Image Sizes

Many newcomers, and some old-timers, have a common problem here on Club Cobra...that is, taking the pictures from a digital camera and either including them in a post (attached image) or placing them in their Gallery (uploaded image).

Today's multi-megapixel digital cameras often default to a very hi-res image, and taking that image file and attempting to directly use it in a post results in errors about a "file too large".

First, here are the guidelines.

For attaching images directly to a post, we have set some tight filesize constraints. This is because we want our users to have a speedy load time when browsing threads.
If we allowed massive images to be made part of posts, you would have an interesting wait as you changed pages.

As such...we limit the file size of attached images to 39K. Ideal picture size for attachments is 640 x 480.

The Gallery allows for larger, more hi-res images to be uploaded. The ideal picture size for Gallery uploads is 800 x 600, or 1024 x 768 if you have a really detailed picture.
Although the Gallery is more tolerent for file sizes, 80k - 140k is a good upper limit to try and achieve. You can go much larger, but that will quickly consume your Gallery space quota, and often is unnecessary, as the higher resolution may be of no advantage to a displayed picture.
You can go upwards to 1 megabyte in file size if necessary.

Many users have difficulty converting the large, raw image files that come directly from a camera or scanner.
Usually, all cameras and scanners come with some image-editing software. What you want to do, in order to process that raw image, is to:

• convert to a JPEG (if the raw file is a BMP)
• resize the image to 640x480 or 800x600 where appropriate.

Unfortunately, many of these programs get complicated and are difficult to master.

As an alternative, here is a little tool that Microsoft has available for Windows XP that will let you instantly resize a picture in a very simple fashion.

Microsoft has a drawer full of little utilities that never made it into the formal releases of Windows.
They call this collection Power Toys and they are available for personal use, without guarantee from Microsoft.

One of them is an Image Resizer for Windows XP. It is a handy little tool for those folks who want to take pictures from their digital camera and send them via e-mail or post them on a website...but don't have a Photo Editing program...or can't figure theirs out.

Most images today from digital cameras are far too big for web use.

The Image Resizer, when installed, enables you to resize one or many image files with a right-click.

First, download the file from this URL, and save on your desktop.

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...ertoySetup.exe

When you have downloaded the file, close all programs and locate the file, ImageResizerPowertoySetup.exe, on your desktop.

Double-click to launch the installer and follow the instructions, taking the default choice on each page.

When the installation completes, you are done. You can delete the file you downloaded from your desktop.

This little program modifies the right-click context menu such that, when you point to any standard image file, you will now see a choice in the menu called "Resize Pictures."

Try it...

Find an image file on your computer (.jpg or .bmp), point to the icon of the file and right-click.
Choose Resize picture, and you will see the following:



Choose a new picture size and click OK. The program will create ANOTHER image file in the same location with the same name, but with the 'size' term added to its file name. (e.g., "small", "medium", etc.)

For posting on the forum... the Small size is appropriate for Attachments, while the Medium or Large is correct for Gallery uploads.

You can customize the tool with the Advanced Button. When the Resize Picture window is displayed, hit Advanced and you will see:



This lets you pick a custom size.

It also lets you configure the program to MODIFY the original image, and not create a duplicate with the new size...NOT recommended unless you are sure you want to destroy the original image.

Have fun.... this should help new camera owners prep their pictures in a more standardized fashion.

Ron
ClubCobra Moderator__________________
Ron KMP178


Last edited by computerworks : 05-07-2006

[fastraxsg]

One of the other "good things" about having a suitable size photo posted....is I don't have to drag or scroll left or down to see the whole photo in one view. A few of the photos here are huge and you need a double wide screen to see 'em...or try to imagine what the whole thing looks like while you scroll back and forth.

[fasterpatrick]

Yea, I got all of that but how do I get around the ten pics a day rule. and how does that work is it 24 hrs since the last one or does it start and stop at a specific time this is driving me nuts trying to get my build thread back together ten pics at a time; Patrick

[ZOERA-SC7XX]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Hold on, hombre.

There has been a sticky at the top of this page since May, 2006 which Ron went out of his way and took great effort in detailing how to attach directly to posts and how to use the gallery, with very specific instructions and guidelines about picture sizing. Since you're a "car guy" and may not be able to figure out how to scroll to the top of the page for this forum...here's the link:

Link to thread for "car guys" who can't see the top thread of the All Cobra Talk page!


That sticky thread replaced a previous one that had been up there for at least two years before that.

There are two other recent threads regarding the Gallery in the sticky area.

There has been a fundraising drive every year at this site since at least 2001.


Hope this helps...

Jamo:
You've got a good memory

I don't read most of the posts, so maybe It's my fault for getting caught with my pants down. A little late now, but one of my pc's has XP, so I'll look into make some of the changes. It'll take some time to resurrect my gallery in reasonable size pics, but it's a long winter. We'll see...

Ron:
You made it sound like a crime to have oversized pics? My gallery started 2 1/2 years ago. If there was any notations about photo size, I would have made changes then. I'll try, but like I said before, my galleries are to share my builds and cars with others like me who build their own cars.

[Full Throttle Al]

There are also sites on the net that allow you to post/store unlimited photos, such as:

http://www2.snapfish.com

This site is from HP. You can also have them make very cool books with your photos at a very good price.

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by fasterpatrick

Yea, I got all of that but how do I get around the ten pics a day rule.

Let me work on overriding that....

[hey,littlecobra]

Let's say i join up with photobucket, or snapfish. And, I figure out all the resizing toys. Great! consider it successful!
what about my current gallery??
Is there a 'quik fix' to resize all of those???
Would I have to resize in my photo program, delete from here, and upload the smaller version??
Can i get another gallery with another member name for a new gallery???? I would still post under hlc, but maybe gimme a new forum name for ANOTHER gallery??
gosh i'm just trying to avoid deleting, resizing and uploading all those pics!
i will never get that done!
I can't buy myself more space?? please???

[computerworks]

if you can...sit tight on those alternatives for a bit...we'll see what we can do.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by hey,littlecobra

I can't buy myself more space?? please???

Evidently not. Your money is no good here. No amount of money will get you out of this problem. You can't get a price quote, nor will you get an answer as to why that is. You have a better chance of getting the Kirkham brothers to fly out and cut your fiberglass body off with X-acto knives and replace it with aluminum -- at least with that you could probably get a price quote. So just face it, you're not going to get an answer as to why you can't buy space, and you're not going to get an answer as to why you can't get an answer. And heaven forbid others miss the "once a year" chance to contribute, they are then forced to wait for the opportunity to come around again next year. You'd think you could give away a contribution to CC at any time, and it would be easy to do, but that just ain't the way it is.

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by patrickt

You'd think you could give away a contribution to CC at any time, and it would be easy to do, but that just ain't the way it is.

Your tone is not appreciated....at all.

Contact Brent Mills, the site owner, for any of your requests.

[1ntCobra]

A couple of thoughts:

1) Keep the resolution turned up on your camera. You could have bought a cheaper camera if you did not want that resolution. And today memory cards can hold lots of pictures. My wife has a 10mp camera and can get 900 pictures at that resolution on her card. With your camera always set to high quality, some day you might shoot that killer picture that you want to blow up to poster size and you will be glad you can. One of these days, I'll probably switch from film to digital myself. 8^)

2) It is a little extra effort to downsize the pictures before uploading them here, but I'll make the effort going forward.

3) Do you really want us to downsize to 640x480? That looks pretty small on both my home monitor 1920x1200 and my work monitor 1680x1050.

4) I may have photos on other sites and link them into posts. That will not take up space on clubcobra's server. But is there a way I could do that to link pictures into my gallery as a way of not using up my gallery space? By having the pictures in my gallery, it gives other members a chance to find them by searching the gallery (as opposed to searching thru discussion threads) to find them. But it seems to me that the only way to get my pictures into my gallery is to upload a copy of the pictures file (which takes up space on clubcobra).

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by 1ntCobra

Do you really want us to downsize to 640x480? That looks pretty small on both my home monitor 1920x1200 and my work monitor 1680x1050.

Not at all...we all love a good, hi-res picture.

800x600 or 1024x768 is just fine for most resolutions.

We set the max pixel size to 1300x1300 for uploaded images.

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by 1ntCobra

I may have photos on other sites and link them into posts. That will not take up space on clubcobra's server.

That's correct.

Originally Posted by 1ntCobra

But is there a way I could do that to link pictures into my gallery as a way of not using up my gallery space? By having the pictures in my gallery, it gives other members a chance to find them by searching the gallery (as opposed to searching thru discussion threads) to find them.

Good thought, but the answer is no. The Gallery is a photo repository.
Even though you now can grab an image from a URL elsewhere, instead of a direct upload from your PC, the Gallery will still take that image and place it in full into your album space.

[Ron61]

Ron,

Just a question that I haven't seen asked so far. When people pull the pictures out of their galleries and re-size them for uploading again, won't they lose any remarks or comments that they have received? I have looked at a lot of very nice cars and pictures in various galleries and many of them have several nice comments, and deservedly so.

Thanks,

Ron

[computerworks]

Yes, that's true.

[Full Throttle Al]

Ron,

Is there a way you can resize our photo's as a group?

Alan

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by Full Throttle Al

Ron,

Is there a way you can resize our photo's as a group?

Alan

I just reviewed the software and I don't see a way to do that.
I see a mass delete, as was asked about earlier.

Let me look further and I'll let you know.