Continuation CSX a "Kit car"?

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

I agree 100% that they are authentic Shelby licensed reproductions of the original 60's built versions . Never said they were not authentic Shelby products, just not original Cobras (as built in the 60's). Someone else tell me when the merry-go-round ride stops as I'm starting to get dizzy .


Bill S.

It could stop right there if you like. Nobody said they were original 60s Cobras.

BTW, you guys keep the merry go round going. The thread starter didn't ask if they were "real" Cobras or not.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Sal,

The problem arises because they use "1965" in their description under model. If the description read "Cobra 427" I do not think the marketing ploy that CSI currently uses would be as effective. Is the car really a "1965 Cobra 427", clearly no.......So why bother to add the year in the description except to muddy the waters just a bit. As a further knock, where do you think Unique got all of their ideas from, yup, you guessed it CSI/CSL.


Bill S.

I'm not really sure this is really deceptive. What about the Kirkham 41 Willys? I probably would not have a clue of what it was supposed to be, if they did not call it that.

[Chaplain]

I think Mrmustang alluded to an important issue, and I apologize if I've misinterpreted his point.....if you bought the car to fulfill anybody elses dream but your own, then you may have made a poor choice regardless of the cars origin.

I think the best question I was ever asked was not "is it real", but "where do you take it to get it fixed"? When I told him, to my garage, I got the most satisfaction providing that answer than any other I've provided.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Chaplain

I think the best question I was ever asked was not "is it real", but "where do you take it to get it fixed"? When I told him, to my garage, I got the most satisfaction providing that answer than any other I've provided.

Well put. I had my ERA at a pretty big show this weekend and an old fellow had been looking under my car's rear. He then came up and said "I see you have an independent rear, looks like a Jag, but you don't have inboard brakes. How'd you do that?" I told him that was the best question anyone had asked me at a car show and then spent the next 20 minutes talking with him.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Chaplain

I think Mrmustang alluded to an important issue, and I apologize if I've misinterpreted his point.....if you bought the car to fulfill anybody elses dream but your own, then you may have made a poor choice regardless of the cars origin.

Thank you, finally, someone gets it.


Bill S.

PS: As for it being real, if you can touch it, then yes, it's real

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Chaplain

I think Mrmustang alluded to an important issue, and I apologize if I've misinterpreted his point.....if you bought the car to fulfill anybody elses dream but your own, then you may have made a poor choice regardless of the cars origin.

Which reminds me of the story of the young man on his wedding night. After he had removed his clothes, his blushing bride took one look at his diminutive member and said "And just who do you think you're going to please with that?" To which the young groom smiled and replied, "Me."

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by Chaplain

I think Mrmustang alluded to an important issue, and I apologize if I've misinterpreted his point.....if you bought the car to fulfill anybody elses dream but your own, then you may have made a poor choice regardless of the cars origin.

If that is the case, then don't you think that those people have a right to their dream, and a right to not have it smeared and tainted all over the internet by people who don't share that dream?

[ENTDOC]

freedom of speech protects both the dreamer and the non dreamer, so the dreamer has the right to his dream and anyone that wants to critique or criticize that dream has that right also. Assholes are equally protected in this country

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by ENTDOC

Assholes are equally protected in this country

Dang, nothing like a "cheery bedside manner..."

[ENTDOC]

it was a tongue in cheek comment

[Chaplain]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

If that is the case, then don't you think that those people have a right to their dream, and a right to not have it smeared and tainted all over the internet by people who don't share that dream?

Huh, could you repeat that in English please.

[Excaliber]

Good point Jamo, no matter WHAT you got for a Cobra, if it wasn't built in the 60's you still gotta 'assplain' it. I DO get tired of the story as it concerns my ERA, which is far less complicated than the story with my Excalibur, but still, 'pull up a chair while I tell the tale.'

It's enough to make a guy wanna sell everything to score an orginal just so you won't have to 'go there' when it's story time.

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by Chaplain

Huh, could you repeat that in English please.

Translation:

It was pointed out that you should buy a car to fullfill your dream, not someone else's.

My repsonse was that those who have done just that, should have the right to not have their dreams trashed by those who don't share that dream.

Of course, as pointed out after THAT, freedom of speech gives people the right to trash other people's dreams.

Then add Club Cobra to the mix, and you've got a place were any CSX related thread can be turned into the same old arguement by the same old non-CSX owners with nothing better to do. But don't you dare try doing that to a Kirkham owner, or an ERA owner, or any other brand for that matter.

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

Good point Jamo, no matter WHAT you got for a Cobra, if it wasn't built in the 60's you still gotta 'assplain' it. I DO get tired of the story as it concerns my ERA, which is far less complicated than the story with my Excalibur, but still, 'pull up a chair while I tell the tale.'

It's enough to make a guy wanna sell everything to score an orginal just so you won't have to 'go there' when it's story time.

And, what's even worse than that, is the curse of the CSX owner. Where you are caught in the middle of trying to explain to someone how the car is sold by Shelby, but not back in the 60s.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by ENTDOC

it was a tongue in cheek comment

yes, but who's tongue in who's cheek

[Jamo]

Sal, ergo my reference to a treatise being needed for a CSX versus explanations for other makes.

I don't see a single post anywhere in this thread that trashes CSXs. It is not "trashing" for folks to disagree with your oft-repeated definitive definition of what you definitely believe.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

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Then add Club Cobra to the mix, and you've got a place were any CSX related thread can be turned into the same old arguement by the same old non-CSX owners with nothing better to do. But don't you dare try doing that to a Kirkham owner, or an ERA owner, or any other brand for that matter.

Strange, when Evan does not reply on a csx related thread, the people who normally bash him are not here to chime in.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

Translation:

It was pointed out that you should buy a car to fullfill your dream, not someone else's.

My repsonse was that those who have done just that, should have the right to not have their dreams trashed by those who don't share that dream.

Nobody is out to trash anyone else's dream. It's when reality gets in the way that the dream vanishes. There are those out there that live in their own dream world, some of those people attempt to turn that dream into everyone else's dream and this is what the trouble begins. As stated above, no matter what you have, aluminum, plastic, carbon fiber, brass, or whatever else they have made these cars out of, if it was not originally built in the 60's, then it is not an original 60's Cobra. That really is the bottom line, one that even you agree with I believe......


Bill S.

[ENTDOC]

I kind of know what Sal is saying, even though I agree that there has been no trashing of CSX on this thread. I have a continuation GT40 GT2103 and it is legally a real GT40 licensed by Safir to support that. It does draw plenty of ' it is not an original GT40 so it is no more real than my XYZ GT40 ( I have an XYZ GT40 also) and that is ok that it tears them up so badly that they must constantly worry about it, I kind of like it that way. I figure I am damn lucky to have the ability to have one and if others do not like the nomenclature, screw em.

[RodKnock]

To borrow ENT's word of "nomenclature", the modern CSX Cobras have that inherent issue of "real" or "original" or "replica." Everyone else's Cobra is a replica. So there's no dispute. The CSX can cause a dispute amongst the crowd.