Continuation CSX a "Kit car"?

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by A-Snake

So what component car manufacturer, still in business, has a car that is 25 or more years old? Kirkham, Shelby, ERA etc are 'new' special construction vehicles even if they simulate a car from the '60's.

Arntz Butler?

[Excaliber]

My 1984 ERA will be 25 next year and it looks like I'll be in Texas when that happens. Guess I'll look into getting 'historic plates' for it!

[CobraDan]

Unique Motorcars is a family owned business, operated by Alan and Maurice Weaver (brothers) and their Mother, Jean Weaver. The Weaver family's experience with Kit Cars began in Phoenix, Arizona in 1976. At that time we were operating as Antique Car Restoration Center. Our primary business was the complete restoration of classic and special interest automobiles. Most of the cars being restored were owned by collectors and museums. We were the exclusive restoration company for the Grand Old Cars Museum in Scottsdale, Arizona. Grand Old Cars Museum was the world's largest collection of convertible automobiles under one roof. We also restored numerous Mustang convertibles for A & G Classic Cars. We continued to restore cars until 1979.

We assembled Intermeccanica Porsche Speedster Replicas and Auburn Boat tail Speedsters until we purchased Unique Motorcars in 1979. This is when we started to manufacture Cobra* Replicas.

[FWB]

Originally Posted by A-Snake

So what component car manufacturer, still in business, has a car that is 25 or more years old? Kirkham, Shelby, ERA etc are 'new' special construction vehicles even if they simulate a car from the '60's.

mines a 1979 kellison was from jersey and had qq plates(historic car) on it
transfering from nj to pa a freakin nightmare had to play dirty to get title
even transfered

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Joe Wicked

A-Snake, you are correct the Classic plates are the ones he was referring to here in TX, they say "Historic Vehicle" on them. The bad thing is you can get them for anything that is 25 years or older A coworker saw a rusted out 80 chevy pickup with them on the other day. It is much cheaper to register them this way, than the normal registration fee, so people are figuring out that it is a way to save money on their POS.

In PA, you need to send a picture of the car, I guess to prevent a situation like this.

[Nedsel]

You can get historic vehicle tags in CA as well, however there is a stipulation that cars wearing them are not to be driven for typical errands, etc. In other words, if you are stopped when driving your whatever, you are supposed to be on your way to a show, a parade, or some other "event" in your 25-year-old or older automobile. Best not to get stopped in traffic on the way to work some weekday morning.

[Joe Wicked]

Originally Posted by A-Snake

So what component car manufacturer, still in business, has a car that is 25 or more years old? Kirkham, Shelby, ERA etc are 'new' special construction vehicles even if they simulate a car from the '60's.

All of the more recent ones I know have the regular plates on them. I know it used to be different, and I think some people have them titled as a 65, but I do not know the specifics or if they are actually legally done. I was just trying to confirm that the Historic Vehicle and the Classic Vehicle plates are one in the same.

[Joe Wicked]

Originally Posted by Nedsel

You can get historic vehicle tags in CA as well, however there is a stipulation that cars wearing them are not to be driven for typical errands, etc. In other words, if you are stopped when driving your whatever, you are supposed to be on your way to a show, a parade, or some other "event" in your 25-year-old or older automobile. Best not to get stopped in traffic on the way to work some weekday morning.

Those would be the Antique Vehicle plates. 25 years and older, 5 year registration that A-Snake posted. Even though the age is the same, the Historic Vehicle registration is every year and does not have the same restrictions.

[Bernica]

It's a Cobra, built by Shelby American, with a real CSX number and in the registry. Sure, time has gone by and technology and business have changed. I'm kind of glad for some of the changes or I would be scared even more sh__less driving CSX 4250.

[Slither]

Here in Arizona, my Historic plates can be re-registered on a one OR two year basis.

[jmimac351]

You know, now that I think of Boss 302 mustangs and those are worth a lot of money, suddenly I feel much better about my '92 Mustang LX coupe since it's also "real". Isn't that the bottom line here? The subtle (and sometimes not) references to the tremendous value of "original" cobras and how that must have some bearing on what was made for me just recently and; therefore, how mine is better than yours and I need to make sure you understand that? The reason some CSX guys catch grief is because they are constantly trying to oversell and people see right thru it. "No Fake", "Real 1", etc.

They are beautiful cars and it's a shame their owners can't just let them stand on their own merit. It's like the overzealous parent at the baseball game. They ain't the same thing and don't tell me that's not what you want the uniformed observer to believe.

When the market says they are the same, then everyone will recognize the value and prominence you wish they had. Otherwise, just try to enjoy the car.

For crying out loud. Time to make some coffee.

[James Stern]

I drive a CR II. I've waited a long time to get anything that even looks like a Cobra. I can justify almost anything that I have done in my life but at the end of the day you make your decision and try to enjoy your choice. This debate can go on ad nauseum and I'll still be happy with the choice I made.

If you have deep enough pockets go out and buy "THE REAL THING" if you don't, then buy something that makes you happy.

The most important thing is to remember to drive it when you can.

Jim Stern

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by jmimac351

The reason some CSX guys catch grief is because they are constantly trying to oversell and people see right thru it. "No Fake", "Real 1", etc.

It's like the overzealous parent at the baseball game.

Why does it have to be an overzealous parent. Can't we just be proud parents of what our cars are?

I don't try to oversell anything. My car is a real Shelby Cobra, and I am proud to display such. Doesn't mean I think of myself or my car as better than anyone else. My car is what it is and I am proud of that. If other people don't agree, too bad.

[Excaliber]

Well said Sal, well said indeed!

[Bill Kesner]

So very true Sal.......

And thanks for clearing up the roller issue I read earlier. Bought mine in 1999, which was built as a roller by SAI, and went next door to Finish Line. You could purchase your car back then in complete component parts and assemble yourself, though not too many went this route.

- Bill -

[jmimac351]

Sal, I've seen your car and it's one of the nicest I've seen. Although it is interesting that you assumed I was talking about you. Sometimes the image that's projected and the one perceived are two different things. I think that may explain why sometimes some people catch grief.

[REAL 1]

Sal: Bingo!!!

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by jmimac351

Sal, I've seen your car and it's one of the nicest I've seen. Although it is interesting that you assumed I was talking about you. Sometimes the image that's projected and the one perceived are two different things. I think that may explain why sometimes some people catch grief.

The only reason I made that assumption, was because you mentioned the "no fake" (my license plate) thing. If you hadn't posted that, I would have not thought you were talking about me.

[CSX 4039]

Originally Posted by jmimac351

The reason some CSX guys catch grief is because they are constantly trying to oversell and people see right thru it. "No Fake", "Real 1", etc.

Although you are possibly oblivious to this fact, you just became Evan's new poster child regarding blindside flaming of CSX owners.

Originally Posted by jmimac351

The reason some CSX guys catch grief is because they are constantly trying to oversell and people see right thru it. "No Fake", "Real 1", etc.

In contrast, I don't notice too many FFR owners getting flamed for putting "Carroll Shelby Motorcars" license plate frames on their cars, Shelby Cobra emblems on their hoods and trunks, or afixing Shelby Auto, Inc., Venice, CA VIN plates to their cars...

Pay your money, make your choice
Pay $50k, get a finished FFR kit,
Pay $150,000, get a finished authentic CSX roller,
Pay $1,500,000, get an historic orginal CSX manufactured vehicle.
I don't know who you are, and don't presume to know what you tell people about your car, (nor do I give a sh*t).
You don't know a thing about me, nor what I say about my car.
Not that it matters, but my current license plate number is a random number.
With more important issues, like NObama gonna be the next President, inflation gonna go thru the roof, and unemployment gonna skyrocket, who gives a f*ck? Not you, nor I.
Nice thread killer.

[jmimac351]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

The only reason I made that assumption, was because you mentioned the "no fake" (my license plate) thing. If you hadn't posted that, I would have not thought you were talking about me.

I didn't realize yours had that. I saw it on another car. I saw your car at an HSR race at Daytona and thought it was the nicest one there. I'd be proud of it too. My only point is little things like that can give off a certain vibe that you may not mean to convey. Not that you're responsible for other's feelings as I'm not shy about candor. It's just food for thought whether it matters or not.

Nice car man.