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Old 06-02-2008, 09:36 PM
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Default 12 mpg sound right for 351 crate?

Hello everyone,

Last weekend I went on a wonderful cruse with the Kentucky Cobra club.
I took the opportunity to calculate my fuel economy because it was one of the longest drives that I have had my car on so far.

The drive was just at 100 miles and I calculated my fuel milage at almost 12mpg and I'm wondering if this sounds about right .
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351 ford crate dual plane intake. Advertised at 360 hp at the fly wheel.
holley 650 cfm street avenger vacuum secondary carb.
tremec 3550 5 speed.
ford 8.8 rear with 3.73 gears

the driving was a mostly country roads with a little interstate thrown in.
we never exceeded the speed limit by more that a few miles per hour.

So is 12mpg about right or do I need to have someone do some tuning on my setup?
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:41 PM
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12 mpg sounds about right. I checked the mileage on my Roush 402 one time and it was in the 11 mpg range.
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:51 PM
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I've got about the same setup as you. I have a 3.10 rear, the worst I've seen is about 9mpg and the best is about 13mpg. I don't check it very often, it's to depressing, but then again that's not why I bought it.

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Old 06-02-2008, 09:52 PM
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I get 14-15mpg at 80mph. I would expect a smaller engine to be more efficient.

427W Dart, Dart heads, huge hydraulic roller cam, 8 stack EFI. Tremec TKO 5 speed, 3.55 gears.
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14 to 15 mpg is outstanding! 12 aint bad. 351's never did get much better than that, even when there bone stock! Some studies suggest a BIG block (as in cubic inches) turning a lower rpm (think overdrive) is more fuel efficient than a small block.
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Those 3.73 gears aren't doing you any favors, milage wise.
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I can get about 19 MPG straight cruise about 80 MPH with 3.27 gears. Around town I get about 12 MPG, just normal-ish driving.

How QUICKLY did you accelerate up to those limits?

What is your cruise RPM at, say, 70 MPH? 80 MPH?

Three Peaks is right with the 3.73 comment.
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not a fan of the avenger carb for millage. 3.08 gears and a holley 80783C might do better.
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Stroked to 396 with a tremec 3550 and 3:73's at the back. Dyno says just under 500 hp/tq. I get 10-12 around town but if I take an all freeway run it will get a solid 20.
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I'm running an FE block stroked to 452 with about 530hp through a 3:31 rear. I've never checked my mpg but my spg is waayy up there! (smiles per gallon)
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In all my years running a 351C in two Aussie 2 door Falcon Hardtops (heavy vehicles) I never had worse than 13 - 14 mpg around town. On a run regularly saw between 19 - 22 mpg depending on how hard I peddalled. bOn one occasion I achieved 26 mpg on a long distance run
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My 351W has 10.2 to 1 compression ratio and a little over 400 HP at crank. On a 600 mile trip of mostly highway driving, I got 22 MPG. That's with a 3:73 rear end gears and a 0.68 fifth gear ratio.

Of course, around town, the mileage can be anywhere from 12 to 16 MPG depending on the weight of my right foot.
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That mileage sounds really low to me. I have a 351W crate motor (375HP) with the Tremec transmission and can get about 20 mpg on the highway cruising. I changed the gear from the 3:73 to a 3:31 and the mileage changed significantly for the better. I would suggest looking into a gear change if you are basically a cruiser and not a hard core racer.
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Roger:
I've got a 351 with a dual plane, the same Tremec, the same 3.73 and a Holley 850 and I would get 18 to 22 on a trip like that assuming I was just cruising and not leaning on it a lot. 1,900 RPM at 60 MPH.

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I have a roush 427sr/tw and get about 12 mpg around town. I am still in break so I have been driving very conservative. I imagine I will be closer to 10 mpg when I start to take advantage of the power. I have 3.42 with TKO600
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My 390FE, mild build with 3:73s is right there. Same, 12mpg Hwy.
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Madmaxx - Superformance is showing a rear-end ratio of 3:46 on their spec sheet for new cars. Guessing that you also went with the .82 OD which keeps the revs up a bit at hwy speed. I'll have to check my freeway mileage sometime since the 11-12 mpg (the only time I checked the mpg) that I got was mostly touring through the hills.
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430 hp TKO 5 speed 3.43's 65mph 1900 rpm's Ford motorsport 392 670 holley and a dynatune.18.6-22.5 mpg. Was 24 mpg but they gave it more fuel on the dyno.Oh Victor man. which is not the best , some day I will go with injection.12 with a 360 hp on a freeway drive, you are hurting the motor.To much fuel.#2773 Jerry
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Stroked to 396 with a tremec 3550 and 3:73's at the back. Dyno says just under 500 hp/tq. I get 10-12 around town but if I take an all freeway run it will get a solid 20.
yeap, thats about what I get too. Except I never got 20mpg on the freeway.
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Got the bug,

You are right I have the stock 3.46 in my spf with the .82OD
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