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06-22-2008, 09:05 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: St. Louisville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: A&C 67 427 cobra SB
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Warning to Red Cobra owners
I was in the LCS parade. I was following a bright red Cobra in the parade. The sun was out. A beautiful day. At first I thought the brake light on the Cobra in front of me were not working, but when I was close at a stop, I could tell a slight differance when he let off the brake peddle. My son who was with me also commented that he thought the brake lights were not working. We even tried taking off our sun glasses, and you just could not see the brake lights. The second car up was a darker color, and we could see the brake lights very well on that car,
Maybe this has been talked about before, but thought I would mention it. I was thinking that maybe the LED lights or some other brighter bulb might help. I love red on these cars, and don't want to knock on a color. Maybe we should all take a look at our brake lights on a bright sunny day.
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06-23-2008, 09:49 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Dacula, (Atlanta),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427 SC, Southern Automotive 427W Stroker
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It's funny you bring this up. I was told in traffic recently that one of my brake lights was out. I checked it out when I got home and they were both fine. But hey, who needs brake lights on a bright red Cobra! My whole car is a brake light!
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06-23-2008, 09:50 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Peachtree City,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR - 351 / 385 hp
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Brake lights & tail lights
We were instructed to turn on our headlights for the parade into london. I believe this may have caused some difficulty with cars that have brake & tail lights in the same reflector. The guy I followed had the single tail lamp & it was difficult to tell when he put on the brakes. Luckily for both of us, my navigater was watching close After one "brake check" out on the four-lane, we were real careful. Suggestion, leave the headlights off.
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06-23-2008, 09:54 AM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Palm Coast,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 4241 - authentically built
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Did it have the single Lucas light, or the dual round Lucas lights?
The single style is horrible and emits very little light. It's just an 1157 bulb, behind the red lense, but it has NO backing. It just throws light back towards the wheel. I am really surprised nobody has come out with a reflector cup or something to add onto these lights.
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Sal Mennella
CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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06-23-2008, 10:05 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Highland,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Polished KMP #488 / 427SC, 427 SO/482 by KC
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I would also be interested in a reflective cup for the front side of the single lucas light. It would make them much more visible & bright.
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06-23-2008, 10:07 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Santa Cruz,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2613 Titanium w/Black, Roush 402SR
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You might want to try the 3 Watt Luxeon (red) LED lights from SuperBrightLEDs. I replaced the standard 1156/1157 rear bulbs in my SPF with Red 3 Watt LEDs and noticed a significant improvement. Not cheap to change out all four though.
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No stop signs, speed limit - Nobody's gonna slow me down - Like a wheel, gonna spin it
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06-23-2008, 10:16 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Arps/Burroughs/Hurricane/428FE
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I don't know if this is what you need, but I built a pair of polished alum. tail light buckets, that attach inside the trunk area to the back side of each tail light. My stop and running lights are very bright and visible in the bright sun light here in Lake Havasu City.
Perhaps the car in question had a poor grounding system and no reflectors?
Anyway, Best Regards, Bill
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06-23-2008, 10:29 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
NH
Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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Guys
ERA has a reflector
Polished bulb reflectors/shields for above (see right) - $22
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06-23-2008, 10:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1985 CCX
Guys
ERA has a reflector
Polished bulb reflectors/shields for above (see right) - $22
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Is it for the single or dual light setup? I don't think my single Lucas lense has offset studs like that.
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Sal Mennella
CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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06-23-2008, 10:58 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Chicago,
IL
Cobra Make, Engine: Everett-Morrison, Pushrod 16 valve V-8, Aluminum block/heads, GM engine-control system with port fuel injection
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i too have noticed that issue... not only on red cobras, so what i did was incorporated a 3rd brake light off of a 1999 chevy tahoe.
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06-23-2008, 10:59 AM
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Location: Covington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance # 532, 466 BB, 560HP
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Quote:
Originally Posted by olddog
I was in the LCS parade. I was following a bright red Cobra in the parade. The sun was out. A beautiful day. At first I thought the brake light on the Cobra in front of me were not working, but when I was close at a stop, I could tell a slight differance when he let off the brake peddle. My son who was with me also commented that he thought the brake lights were not working. We even tried taking off our sun glasses, and you just could not see the brake lights. The second car up was a darker color, and we could see the brake lights very well on that car,
Maybe this has been talked about before, but thought I would mention it. I was thinking that maybe the LED lights or some other brighter bulb might help. I love red on these cars, and don't want to knock on a color. Maybe we should all take a look at our brake lights on a bright sunny day.
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Be careful. Not all LED bulbs are brighter. Take a look at the attached link.
http://www.superbrightleds.com/carbulb-notes.htm
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06-23-2008, 11:39 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Santa Cruz,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2613 Titanium w/Black, Roush 402SR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverback51
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True. Another comment from their website:
"As an exception, our new 3 Watt and 5 Watt Luxeon LED car bulbs are as bright or brighter than most standard filament car bulbs."
The results of my purely subjective non-scientific test (my wife and I comparing the bulbs), the Luxeon LEDs appear to be much brighter than the standard bulbs. $100 brighter...you have to decide.
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Doug
No stop signs, speed limit - Nobody's gonna slow me down - Like a wheel, gonna spin it
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06-23-2008, 11:45 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Peachtree City,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR - 351 / 385 hp
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LCS Parade
Sal,
I don't know what type lights they were, but they were the single, rectangular lights. The issue here was that we were in a parade, headed west at 9 in the AM, the sun was shining on the back of the car in front of you. We were instructed to put on our headlights for the parade. The fact that the tail lights were on all the time made it more difficult to see when the brake lights came on
Some good info coming out on this thread now
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06-23-2008, 11:54 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Yorba Linda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF w/392CI stroker
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You can paint the insides of any ERA/SPF bent steel taillight recepticals with white spray paint and that will improve their reflectiveness/brightness outward toward the red lens.
Also be careful on LED selection...they generate more heat and can melt the lense if too close to it. Not all LEDs that are built for the 1156/1157 socket are alike.
Third, what Tony said...the WHOLE CAR is a brake light. I've managed to cause two accidents so far as a result of rubber neckers. Three more and I'm an ace.
-Dean
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06-23-2008, 11:55 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cape Coral,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 2009 Solbra
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1157 bulbs can be replaced with 2357 bulbs, available at any auto parts store. ... approximately 20% more candlepower compared to the stock 1157 bulbs
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Dan Wulff
I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
(No doubt, most will blame it on the donuts.)
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
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06-23-2008, 12:05 PM
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Location: Cape Coral,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 2009 Solbra
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Led Lamps
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Dan Wulff
I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
(No doubt, most will blame it on the donuts.)
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
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06-23-2008, 12:33 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Brunswick,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 1311 428PI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedBarchetta
You can paint the insides of any ERA/SPF bent steel taillight recepticals with white spray paint
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I've used "chrome" paint for that with good results as well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedBarchetta
Also be careful on LED selection...they generate more heat and can melt the lense if too close to it.
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? Are you sure? I've never felt a hot LED before.
Steve
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06-23-2008, 12:46 PM
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No real heat buildup with 12 Volt LED bulbs they are only slightly warm to the touch as there is no filament.
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Dan Wulff
I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
(No doubt, most will blame it on the donuts.)
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
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06-23-2008, 01:04 PM
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Member of the north
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Cobra Make, Engine: A Cobra
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I found the car in front of me, during the parade, had brake lights that didn't work all of the time. I think it was a GA car in front of us and the brake lights only came on 20% of the time...if at all.
Many cars only have the top two lens wired for brake lights and others appear to have power problems as the light goes a little brighter, but the bottom lamps almost turn off.
This is strange that you bring this up. The cars hardest to see are the red cars with poor brake lights.
Just my $0.02 worth.
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06-23-2008, 01:07 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: A Cobra
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Lovehamr,
I could send you some that need heat sinks. Current draw is Current draw.
We have LEDs that will blind you if looked into for more than a second.
We have RED LEDs that need metal heat sinks that are used for HUDs.
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