Buckshot Racefab side pipes, reply #49 correction

[greg schroeder]

I'll provide the short narative.

Ron Roberts built my Buckshot Racefab side pipes, now available at http://www.fireflyperformance.com/.

Dean Beatty sold me Buckshot Racefab side pipes. He now sells another variation of side pipes available at http://www.buckshotracefab.net/

.....or if you like detail I'd like to apologize for the long and winded post to follow, but felt it was important to explain. I have nothing bad to say about Dean Beatty or Ron Roberts. I remain neutral as I'm sure there is much, much more to the relationship between the two of them than I'm aware.

I produced an inacurrate reply to a pervious Buckshot Racefab side pipe topic which is now closed and I'm unable to edit. I felt it necessary to supply the accurate information. I had said Dean Beatty built the side pipes when in fact Rob Roberts built all final installed components to my Buckshot Racefab side pipes. I had mixed up the names in my past reply. This clicked when I read some of the other posts and realized Dean's wife was alive and Ron's wife has passed. Dean Beatty did sell me pipes, Ron Roberts built the pipes. Ron had built the pipes at a time when his wife had just died.

Here are my re-gathered thoughts of the events pertaining to my Buckshot Racefab experience as accurately as I can recall.

-Dean Beatty sold me Buckshot Racefab side pipes with removable mufflers for 4000 dollars plus shipping.

-Ron Roberts built the pipes and polished them.

-I received and installed the pipes and mufflers. In my opinion the welds were fantastic, tight and consistent. The polish was like glass.

-One muffler cracked at a tapered edge.

-A replacement muffler was delivered, different in build internally and externally than the original. To my understanding Dean Beatty built that one muffler.

-I requested two alike mufflers having alike internals, equal in quality and with alike high quality polish to what I had first received.

-Ron Roberts, at this point, started correspondence with me and produced an entirely new pair of mufflers having identical internals, high quality welds and fantastic polish.

-I installed the two new mufflers, now making all final installed components built by Ron Roberts.

-I shipped back three old mufflers.

-The car produced 475 wheel HP with side pipes built by Ron Roberts.

-The car produced high 10 second passes with side pipes built by Ron Roberts.

-Much, much time passed and the Buckshot Racefab topic came up on Club Cobra. I replied quickly in error that Dean Beatty built my side pipes.

-The Buckshot Racefab side pipe post became a circus of jokes and distractions.

-I received a thank you private message from Dean Beatty for my post. He made no mention that Ron Roberts built my pipes. His reply also included information relevant to his business arrangements, losses and comment of Ron Roberts.

-I realized my posting error saying Dean Beatty built the side pipes and private message replied to Dean Beatty with my recollection of events to include that Ron Roberts built the pipes. No reply has occurred to confirm or deny this as of yet. I sent a similar email to Dean Beatty, but have not received a reply.

-I sent Ron Roberts a private message to confirm that he did indeed build my Buckshot Racefab Side pipes. He replied to confirm. He built the side pipes and mufflers.

[McD00]

Greg,

That does say a quite a bit and clears things up in your statement as my roofer/friend is looking to aquire a set for his SPF. I would hate to steer him in the wrong direction.

McD00, long live the cobra

[buckshotdean]

Greg Schroeder............The reason I have not replied to your email is because, I have chosen not to participate in all of this mud slinging. I do not browse club cobra on a regular basis, I am usually much to busy. However, I just finished reading your recent post/correction. The statements in your post are grossly innaccurate and very damaging. I am pretty sure I know where this information orginated. I would like to talk to you regarding this matter. I look forward to speaking with you again.

This is my very first post, never in my wildest dreams did I ever think that I would have to be on the defense. I believe the world wide community of cobra owners deserves the truth. I have nothing to hide. Everything that I say/write is the absolute truth, therefore I will make this offer. I am willing to undergo a polygraph test to answer any and all questions regarding [color="Red"]Buckshot Racefab sidepipes. I am also willing to pay for a polygraph test for the principal party on the other side of this issue. I think a series of questions from cobra owners who are not friends to either of us or have not had dealings with either of us, should be answered by both of us.

I apologize for my first post having to be of this nature. I wanted to take the high road but I don't like MY character constantly being assassinated by the same pack. This post was not designed to stir the pot again but to hopefully bring it to a close with the TRUTH.

Sincerely
Dean Beatty
Buckshot Racefab, LLC

[McD00]

Originally Posted by buckshotdean

Greg Schroeder............ I am willing to undergo a polygraph test to answer any and all questions regarding [color="Red"]Buckshot Racefab sidepipes. I am also willing to pay for a polygraph test for the principal party on the other side of this issue.

Watch out for them Polygraph machines. I took one of those once and the thing damn near blowed up and I thought I was gonna have to pay for the whole thing. Here I thought the faster that little needle thing moved the better. Now, where's that glass of wine...

The one, the Only, McD00.

[greg schroeder]

I now have information from both Dean and Ron of who they say built the pipes. The information from both is conflicting. Dean says neither of them built my pipes specifically, but rather a shop contracted by Ron did. Ron says he built the pipes himself. Let's just say if it weren't for both Ron and Dean together I wouldn't have had the option of having the pipes I purchased at all. Ron, Dean, welder A, welder B, monkeys, people from Mars, it doesn't really matter to me who built them if they're faster, look good and aren't too loud.

[Ron Roberts]

Greg,

To clarify, I did not personally build your pipes. My supplier built them off my fixture to my design and Jody’s specifications. Again, I have no idea what others have said when you purchased them, but when you had the failure, all I wanted was to make your pipes right with another set of mufflers that met your cirteria.

Sorry for the confusion and I hope this helps,

Ron

[greg schroeder]

Originally Posted by Ron Roberts

Greg,

To clarify, I did not personally build your pipes. My supplier built them off my fixture to my design and Jody’s specifications. Again, I have no idea what others have said when you purchased them, but when you had the failure, all I wanted was to make your pipes right with another set of mufflers that met your cirteria.

Sorry for the confusion and I hope this helps,

Ron

Did you personally build any complete sets of Buckshot Racefab side pipes?

[Ron Roberts]

Greg,

For the record, I cut and fit all the components on the first few sets of pipes, this was prior to fixturing of the pipes for production. They were then known as "RR Stainless Pipes" which now is Firefly Performance Products pipes. I was the fabricator but not the welder for the first three sets of pipes. After the initial production of the pilot sets some weld failures showed up. Your original mufflers were part of this weld failure. Your set of pipes including the replaced mufflers were manufactured under my direction and on my fixtures by my current manufacturer. Prior to the weld failures, Jody and I already felt it would be prudent to "move on", which we did by out-sourcing the production to a vendor who was recommended to us and established in the business. We did personally select them after scrutinizing them for quality and reliability. Note: There have not been any failures since working with this current manufacturer. This was Jody's and my ultimate goal in bringing a quality product to our friends and customers.

I agree, it is time to move on, I do encourage any competition any others have to bring to the table.

Thanks for asking,

Ron