National Speed Limit

[tcrist]

WildBill,
Uh-----, Not even worth a response.

[Jerry Clayton]

Government talk about fuel tax being down---Any one wany to wager that they'll change the fuel guzzler tax on hi per cars into an tax on the high milage cars to make up for the further shortfall?????

[Cobrabill]

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[HI Cobra]

WildBill3,

"Our big truck actually gets better milage at 55 so I stay over on the right.When im ther sometimes I feel like im in the way so il pick it up a little so im not a rolling obstickle to traffic flow."

Consideration for other drivers - what a concept - missed by some here.

I think a lot of the problems are related to people talking on cel phones who forget they are driving and totally lose their level of awareness of what is
going on around them - lost in their center of the universe.

[JBCOBRA]

"Left Lane Riders" create dangerous situations for all the people behind them. Driving along in a pack behind a "left lane rider" can get me killed! That would really spoil my day.
Last week one these self righteous "riders" really did put me and a dozen other cars in a bad spot. The driver would not get over to the right lane. I could see other drivers getting really annoyed by the log-jam the "rider" was causing................then one of the cars in the log-jam had a blowout!!! Went swerving all over the highway, damn near taking out everyone! Now if we had not been jammed up by the fool in the left lane, the guy with the blowout would have had someplace safe to go to the side of the road.
Only by the grace of God did we get out of that. Needless to say I was really HOT by now! And I am not afraid to bend some sheet metal I got up that "riders @ss and showed him the "Chrome Horn" and basically moved him to the right lane. Quite a few other victims of the "rider" pulled up and cheered.

[jhv48]

Originally Posted by Ron61

Try driving slow in Europe in the outer lanes and see what it costs you. I don't care if there is no speed limit on the section of the Autobahn you are on and you are doing 100 MPH, when you pass any cars you are passing you had better get your butt back into the right hand lane. And that crap goes on up here in I-5 all the time. We have 3 lanes and they will all be backed up by some IDIOTS in the two outer lanes driving along passing no one and mostly well under the speed limit but making sure they are right next to each other and an 18 wheeler so no one can pass them. Then if they mess up and there is an opening as soon as a vehicle starts to pass they will speed up. California without doubt has the supedist and rudest drivers in the country.

Ron

You couldn't be more right. I think it has to do with population density. The more rats in the box, the more aggressive they become.

I drove through Utah from Ca. last winter and on that two lane Hiway 15 from Nevada through Utah, everyone drove in the right lane until they came upon a slower vehicle. Then they would get in the left lane and pass. Returning to the right lane as soon as it was safe.

Soon as I crossed the border into Ca. coming home, that went all to hell. Everyone wanted to be in the left lane. Utah, Colorado, Idaho, Wyoming and Iowa were very courteous.

Ca. drivers think it is macho to be in the left lane.

[WildBill3]

It's just sad to see that some just dont get it.Guess it takes all kinds.When im in my smaller cars that have a highway gear our speed is usually waaay above 55 and milage doent seem to suffer seems im allways looking for that next fast guy follow so he goes though the speed trap first.And what better way to get good milage than in the DRAFT!!!WB3

[tcrist]

Ok, you guys convinced me, I am wrong about the way I was driving. I promise not to ever do it again. It is dangerous. I will start driving like some of the people that have posted on this thread.

From now on I will drive at least 20 mph over the speed limit and tailgate the other cars. I will use my chrome horn, I will use the PIT maneuver and knock anybody off of the road that is driving the speed limit in the fast lane.

Even though the above mentioned constitute "assault with a deadly weapon”. Why, because it seems like it must be the right thing to do. No one on here is saying a word about that. It must be just the way Cobra drivers drive.

Sorry Jamo, I will put myself on a 3 day time out.

Terry

[392cobra]

Originally Posted by tcrist

Ok, you guys convinced me, I am wrong about the way I was driving. I promise not to ever do it again. It is dangerous. I will start driving like some of the people that have posted on this thread.

From now on I will drive at least 20 mph over the speed limit and tailgate the other cars. I will use my chrome horn, I will use the PIT maneuver and knock anybody off of the road that is driving the speed limit in the fast lane.

Terry

Terry,
It's good to see you have finally learned your lesson.

Happy Motoring.

[JBCOBRA]

Hey tchrist
If you were the @ss that almost got me killed, I pity you for being the way you are.
Are you in denial?
I certainly don't mean to be personal. That is not my nature. But, if You chose to put me in a situation that may cost me my life...............then it is truely is personal.

[Cobrabill]

In addition to "road sense",sarcasm isn't your strong suite either.

[olddog]

Ok I do not agree with tcrist staying in the left lane, but I have to point out that some of you blaming him for all the problems is equally wrong. There will always be times when the left and right lane gets jammed up. Like every time an 18 wheeler is going around a slower truck or when a cop is driving down the highway (I'll come back to this in a moment). The bottom line is that you are in control of the distance between you and the car in front of you. If you are in a line of cars tail gating a slower driver, it is time to allow even more distance between you and the rest of the idiots, because when something goes wrong, you will have even less warning, when the car in front of you hits a stopped car before he can hit his brakes.

Equally I could argue that the guy whos tire blew out may have been much worse if he had not been slowed down by the left lane hog.

I can also tell you that I have driven in Gernany many times. Most of the highways, I was on, were at least 3 lanes wide. The small trucks used in Europe stay in the right lane and only run about 55 mph. The normal traffic flow is 80 mph, with the guys running 120+ mph sprinkled in. This is fine when there are 3 lanes, but when there are only two it just does not work. The speed difference from 80 to 55 is trecherous. To get out of the fast line and move into the slow truck lane, requires burining your brakes up, when traffic is heavy (most of the time). It is best to pick a lane and drive with the flow, and if you cannot run with the big dogs stay the hell out of the left lane, as changing lanes with a 40 mph speed difference is crazzy.

Regardless what people tell you about no speed limit in Germany, the law is that if you are going faster than 130 kph any accident is automatically your fault, but it doesn't matter to you, as your dead. It does matter to your family, as they have to pay all the bills for your stupid mistake.

Back to a cop driving down a 4 lane highway. Everyone sees him and everyone in every lane is suddenly driving the same speed as him, usually the speed limit plus a few. Now as all the people who are cussing tcrist run into this log jam, they start tailgating and changing lanes, not knowing a cop is ahead, and there is no getting through. Within a few minutes someone nearly hits another car changing lanes, and a car goes spinning off into the median. I've seen it a hundred times. There are more wrecks caused by a cop driving down a 4 lane than any other cause, but who's fault is it really? The cop or all the agressive speeders, who will not slow down no matter what. Tcrist is no worse than a cop, but for the life of me I do not understand why he wants to be like one.

However my point to all this blabbering is that although tcrist is wrong, the agressive speeder, tailgators, and rapid lane changers have no leg to stand on either. If they wreck because he is driving the speed limit, it was their choices that put them in harms way. Just because someone pisses you off, you do not have a free pass to do stupid things out of anger. If you are prone to this, you should sell your Cobra, while you are still alive. Well that likely pissed everyone off, but the truth sometimes hurts. I hope this might save someones life, but I doubt it will change anyones mind.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by lineslinger

I don't try play cop and clog up a lane because the guy behind me wants to run 12 mph faster than I do. Just move over and let them pass. Why is that such a big deal? If I see them coming in my rvm, from as much as a quarter mile away, I get the over and let them by. Hell, they get to pay the ticket not me. The guy that sits in the left lane and won't move the hell over is the one who is going to cause the accident.

What a great thread.

I actually agree with terry.

Originally Posted by lineslinger

I don't try play cop and clog up a lane because the guy behind me wants to run 12 mph faster than I do. Just move over and let them pass. Why is that such a big deal?

Because it's likely that the AH wants to pull back in front of me and slow down for the upcoming exit, instead of just slowing down behind me, and the other car in the slow lane, and waiting an extra 3-4 seconds to reach his exit. Most drivers are ignorant, especially the fast driving ones driving vettes. That's why I drive my POS SUV in the fast lane at about 5 mph above the limit, and don;t move over. If there is someone infront of me driving 5 mph slower than the limit, I just change lanes to the slow lane and pass them. WHAT A BIG DEAL. And it gets me when they have to pull out from a side street right in front of you, when there are no cars behind you, and then turn off the road after going 0.5 miles. What a bunch of idiots. I like it best when the truckers line up side by side, up a hill, going 40 mph with a speed limit of 65.

Like I said, GREAT THREAD. We need more of them like this.

[Cobrabill]

[quote=Anthony;865503]What a great thread.

I actually agree with terry.

You're wrong too.

[HI Cobra]

Why anyone would want to sit in the left lane stacking up cars behind them is beyond me.
Life is too short to play these games. Just get over and let them
by - it doesn't hurt. I love it when a runner passes me, like I said earlier,
he can run point and flush the radars. If I'm not in a hurry I don't have a
problem driving in the right lane. I don't think you will ever catch me going
below the speed limit either, conditions permitting.

[tmareina]

Not many people drive faster than I...however if someone does want to drive faster and speeds up behind me I pull over and let them pass...sooner or later there will be an efficient highway man to give them a greeting.

Tom

[Cobrabill]

[quote=HI Cobra;865540]Why anyone would want to sit in the left lane stacking up cars behind them is beyond me.
Life is too short to play these games. Just get over and let them
by - it doesn't hurt. QUOTE]

Not to mention it's the law.

If headlights are gaining on me,it's either DPS or a someone who is flyin'.Either way,i get over long before they're near me.It's called courtesy AND common sense.

[lineslinger]

Originally Posted by Anthony

What a great thread.

I actually agree with terry.



Because it's likely that the AH wants to pull back in front of me and slow down for the upcoming exit, instead of just slowing down behind me, and the other car in the slow lane, and waiting an extra 3-4 seconds to reach his exit. Most drivers are ignorant, especially the fast driving ones driving vettes. That's why I drive my POS SUV in the fast lane at about 5 mph above the limit, and don;t move over. If there is someone infront of me driving 5 mph slower than the limit, I just change lanes to the slow lane and pass them. WHAT A BIG DEAL. And it gets me when they have to pull out from a side street right in front of you, when there are no cars behind you, and then turn off the road after going 0.5 miles. What a bunch of idiots. I like it best when the truckers line up side by side, up a hill, going 40 mph with a speed limit of 65.

Like I said, GREAT THREAD. We need more of them like this.

What is so confusing about the highway traffic signs that read "slower traffic keep right".
I usually run the limit and sometimes 5-8mph over depending on traffic conditions and I will sometimes make a right lane pass if it is open and safe to do so.

I try to maintain one car length for every ten miles per hour I am traveling as a buffer between myself and those in front and behind me as conditions permit

What I will do in consideration of those around me, is move over and let the faster traffic pass, especially when it is heavy.

I just don't feel compelled to advocate my own personalized interpretation of traffic law self righteousness upon those I am sharing the highway with.

There will always be those that display a blatant lack of awareness as to the conditions around them, the volume of traffic, and display zero sense of driving etiquette.

Certain ones just don't give a damn.

My way on the highway, right guys?

You can see them plodding along in the left lane with a half mile of cars stacked up behind them.
They are trolling for road rage and many do it intentionally

Those who lay claim to that specific notion that the highway is their own to dictate upon and all others on this road be damned scare me.
I do my best put as much distance as I can between myself and them because it is that self righteous ego that will, sooner or later, get someone else's family member hurt.

[Bobcat]

Lineslinger , you hit the nail on the head with your reply . I used to drive 50,000 to 60,000 miles/yr for business and saw a perfect example of the consequences of "teaching someone a lesson " first hand just outside of Charleston , WV . There was a car running about 50 mph in the left lane on the Interstate ( yes , he shouldn`t have been doing that ) and really had traffic in a knot . Someone finally passed on the right when that lane opened up and cut back in front of the slow car and slammed on their brakes . The pileup sent several people to the hospital when the slower car being " taught a lesson " panicked and locked up their brakes . I can also tell some tales about traveling I 95 .
Like you , I will either get by as soon as I can or sometimes even pull off until things sort out .... I used to run circle track ( dirt ) and didn`t mind being 6 " off the car in front of me at 100 + mph as I knew he knew what he was doing ... but the highways scare the hell out of me because of the stupidity/incompetence of most drivers .

[lineslinger]

I have experienced the up close and personal results of the type of arrogant lane dominance dictated by some. As a former firefighter I have heard the stories and have seen the gruesome results from the type of driving being advocated by the " self selected" few.


Regardless of how much fact and logic is presented, I have no doubt the driving techniques of the ones who advocate such on this thread will not change one iota.
Terry, Anthony? Am I right?