sb100

[ratacruel]

hi guys I just bough a superformance in arizona is title there as a 1965 spcon
especial construction arizona title. I live in california the car has 850 miles I am the second owner . how I go about registring the car here I live in orange county mission viejo . my cell phone is 949-3091402 if you have any feed back you could call me too

[vanoochka]

Make yourself a drink, get comfortable, then use the search function and type in "SB 100".

Happy reading.

[Got the Bug]

You'll need two drinks!

It's not the end of the world, you just need to be diligent and have all of your ducks in row.

Here's a good resource to get started:

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/checklists/special_con.htm

[Pete Munroe]

RATA,

I used "CAL EZ" for my SB 100 back in 03'. Think it cost about $75 to walk the paper work through the Anaheim or Buena Park DMV.

At the time most of the DMV's had no idea what SB 100 was...and in November of that year, I was about number ~300...now, they are gone in the first day.

The company is in Anaheim, his last name is (sp) Grieco. Does registration for many dealers and private parties.

They did my car, my friends ERA, and half a dozen others I am aware of. All this is California legal registration...call them and ask what you need to establish for your car.

http://orangecounty.citysearch.com/p...rand=smx_yp-nc

They do not have a website I am aware of, think this is from the BBB, or some other Anaheim business directory.

This link should be current. I can not find the business card.

At this point in the year, you may have to wait till Jan 1 to get going, but call Dave Grieco and he will let you know what is necessary.

Try to find everything you can to establish that you built, or another "amateur" built the car..that it is not COMPLETLEY factory built. Also to establish that the parts are not stolen...

Cal CHP dropped the starter on my car to get the 289" engine serial number.

The year of the engine does not matter, only that nothing is stolen and it is amateur built...maybe others can remember the exact requirements or what is now current.

Pete

[ratacruel]

thanks guys , allready have read the dmv web site. but there is not reference to any car out of state or allready registered else where .

[vanoochka]

CA - SPCN reg update

[Got the Bug]

You'll be registering your car under SB1578, which is SB100 for out of state cars. Since your car was already registered out of state, I'm not sure you'll need to complete a statement of construction, but the rest of the process probably applies.

Make an appointment at the DMV, pay your fees and sales tax (don't cheat, they know better), and start walking your car through the process.

http://www.nckcc.com/referenceinfo.html

You should be able to get temporary operating permits (normally issued for 30 or 60 days) to keep you on the road through the end of the year. Search for Sb100 on CC and soak it all in.

[ratacruel]

thanks Doug . I met this guy he is telling me since I allready have a arizona title as a 1965 car he is a license verefier for the state he said to me he will verefid my car in my house fill up the paper work and come with me to the DMV and we will be avail to register the car as a 1965 end of story he said never again a problem . he is harging me $500 dollars to do this operation . he said he is not breaking any laws . is this thru??? the problem with this from my point of view is that the car still has the arizona CHP vin # . and also does not have sb100 sticker . any coments please from any body

[Igofastr]

Originally Posted by ratacruel

thanks Doug . I met this guy he is telling me since I allready have a arizona title as a 1965 car he is a license verefier for the state he said to me he will verefid my car in my house fill up the paper work and come with me to the DMV and we will be avail to register the car as a 1965 end of story he said never again a problem . he is harging me $500 dollars to do this operation . he said he is not breaking any laws . is this thru??? the problem with this from my point of view is that the car still has the arizona CHP vin # . and also does not have sb100 sticker . any coments please from any body

Do not do this. It is not legal. Look up the thread by "Morgester" here on ClubCobra. You definitely run the risk of serious fines and possibly loss of your car. Just ask Boyd Coddington...OK, maybe not him. But don't do it that way. Go through the "SB..." process outlined above. It is a pain, but it's really the only option.

Just my $ .02, and that may be what its worth .

[Ron61]

To be legal in this state your Title must have SPCN on it and either a CHP assigned VIN or one that they have accepted from another state. It also must state the year that you register it here and 1965 won't make it.

Ron

[Morgester]

Originally Posted by ratacruel

thanks Doug . I met this guy he is telling me since I allready have a arizona title as a 1965 car he is a license verefier for the state he said to me he will verefid my car in my house fill up the paper work and come with me to the DMV and we will be avail to register the car as a 1965 end of story he said never again a problem . he is harging me $500 dollars to do this operation . he said he is not breaking any laws . is this thru??? the problem with this from my point of view is that the car still has the arizona CHP vin # . and also does not have sb100 sticker . any coments please from any body

Couple of observations:
1. Make sure your car is legally registered in Arizona as a 1965. Just like California folks play fast and loose in other states as well as to the year of the vehicle. If the original registration in Arizona was not correct for a SPCN California will not honor the year.

2. $500 - the "dude" is just going to register it as a 65 using the original paperwork without disclosing that it is a SPCN. You could do that yourself but then again you will probably be committing a felony. Remember that box that says "under penalty of perjury" and some where they ask you the year model. Although it replicates a 65 it is not a 1965 year model.

3. Key is to disclose to DMV and then what ever DMV does is DMV's issue not yours.

4. I am seeing DMV push back on foreign registrations on the emission testing. Fine you have a 65 SPCN registered in Arizona, but you still need to pass smog based on the year of the build or get a SB100.

5. Get the paperwork from the original R/O on the build date - emission rules change and that date is your baseline.

6. Assuming you have already made a mistake in the process - amnesty legislation is now sitting on the Governor's desk for his signature. Call it a "do over" with no risk. Note that we have been very low key as we worked on the amnesty issue - once amnesity is over I do antcipate steped up enforcement.

[rokndad]

HOLD THE PRESSES!!

ratacruel,

Do not use any "services" to get your car registered in California. If you buy an out of state car, like I did last year, and you want to register it in California, you have to the roll the dice like I did, and stand in line on Jan 2, 2009 and submit your paperwork like the other 499 of us did this year.

California is touchy about their registration process, and the process varies from one DMV and CHP office to the next. Some offices will accept the previously titled car as a 1966 or whatever if it was previously so titled in another state, others will assign the year you made the application. If you bought it this year, you will have a 2008 SPCNS vehicle. You may also luck out and get a clerk that will allow it to continue to be a 1966 Ford or whatever.

You will only need a bill of sale, [i][b]for the actual sales price, [b][i]because the State Attorney General's office is checking thoroughly all SPCNS licensing and fees to insure we all pay the uniform sales or use tax. You also will have to fill out the license application (see attached SEMA link: http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?id=61557).

I first made application to the San Clemente DMV in July last year when I bought the car, aid all of my fees and received three Temp Operating Permits that allowed me to drive it while I was hanging out waiting for Jan 2, 2008 to roll around. 26 of us received our SB 100 numbers that day and then it was simply a matter of getting checked out by the CHP first (sometimes they will accept your manufacturer's VIN, sometimes they will affix a blue metallic strip with a new VIN for you) and then onto your appointment with the State BAR for your smog exemption. The closest one to you is at the Golden West Jr. College in Huntington Beach.

The DMV will generally do the first inspection on your car if it was previously licensed in another state. Lights, brakes, horn, turn signals, etc.

Hope this helps a little. It's a sweating game until you actually get that SB 100 reservation in your hand on the 2nd. But oh so sweet, when those license plates come in the mail. Keep checking around this site for SB 100, that's what I did and had great success from the other members here.

Tom

[Excaliber]

Are there still some SPF's that were and remain 'black listed' by California in that they can NEVER be registered in that State again?

If so, let's hope this AZ car isn't one of them...

[Morgester]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

Are there still some SPF's that were and remain 'black listed' by California in that they can NEVER be registered in that State again?

If so, let's hope this AZ car isn't one of them...

Yes, there were a number of vehicles that were sold as "turn keys." A SPCN completed by a single manufacturer for purposes of resale can never be registered in California. The builder is not a “manufacturer” under California law (no compliance with federal safety regs) and it is not a SPCN (SPCN cannot be built for purposes of resale).

If buying used in California make sure there is documentation showing that the engine was sold separate from the rest of the vehicle and installed by a separate company. Everything done by one shop is a warning flag for “turn key” construction for DMV and may cause the delay or denial of the vehicle’s registration.

[GUNNAR]

If you purchase a used SPCN from outside the state of California, does the 7500 mile rule still apply?

[Got the Bug]

I'm no expert, but I'm not aware of any mileage rules or limitations regarding out of state cars. I know that there is minimum mileage requirements if you want to register a motorcycle from another state.

[rokndad]

If you purchase a used SPCN from outside the state of California, does the 7500 mile rule still apply?

The answer is....."Nope". I asked that question of my DMV office manager and she said it does not apply for SPCNS vehicles....only for cars made by auto makers that have up to date smog, safety, etc.

[GUNNAR]

Thank you guys. I couldn't find the answer to the "7500 mile" rule anywhere else. I just bought a Kirkham 289 FIA with very low mileage and am planning on trying for an SB100 in January and then I rememberd the 7500 mi. rule that defines a "used" car here in California. Very glad to hear that it doesn't apply in this case. Thanks again.

[ratacruel]

hi guys again I did talk over the phone to some of you . I went to the DMV yesterday and started the ball rolling. I got the ppointmet paper for the CHP from 124 I believe . and I paid my fees also . but here comes the question .under year only shows 0000 not the current year also she seted up as a spcns . she said when she sellected spcns automaticly the year went to 0000 . is this ok . also I talk to terry thanks for your time terry if you are looking at this post . he said do the CHP next and then wait until january 2. is that the right step I was under the impression that I had to go to the BAR before january2 . please ANY imput in bouth question guys . thanks in advance

[Got the Bug]

Ratacruel -

"YR 1st SOLD" on your registration should be 0000, so that's correct.

The year of the car (*YR on the registration form) will probably be the first year the car was registered in AZ. My registration indicates that my cars is a 2007 SPCNS.

At this point, you only need to visit the CHP. The visit to the BAR is done after you've been issued your SB100 sequence number. The DMV may also require that you get a brake and safety check. The DMV isn't consistent regarding the safety check, so check the top of your paperwork.

Best of luck with the SB100. The process is fairly straightforward (once you've submitted the correct forms and paid your fees at the DMV) and is really nothing that you want/need to outsource to someone else.