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11-28-2008, 07:02 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
NH
Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
Posts: 19,019
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Chip
Post some pics in your gallery. It did look like an exceptional car. Brian Angliss did a great job with them as total factory built cars. Many say better than AC and KMS? This is assuming that most KMS have been left nude. The painted KMS cars I have seen have been very high quality. Problem with KMS cars might be the builder themselves, a great build with great attention to detail will result in a fantastic car and high $ investment. A base KMS build is still better than what I own however falls short with the totally authentic look using aluminum pedal arms, 15" wheel, suspension and other stuff found as standard. Fully optioned really makes a difference.
This is one fine KMS out of the NE which easily compares to AKL standards: (With tubular suspension and great attention to detail)
Or this one done to the nines....
Started with a Kirkham Motorsports rolling chassis with an aluminum body and original style tubular steel frame. Completely stripped car down and rebuilt as an orignal Cobra ground up restoration project using all period correct parts and many parts from original CSX cars. Powered by an NOS 427 Ford Side Oiler engine. All restoration work done by specialists that have worked on original Cobras since the 60s and have restored over 40 originals.
Jeff
Last edited by 1985 CCX; 11-28-2008 at 09:09 AM..
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11-28-2008, 07:25 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
Posts: 10,362
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChipBeck
But when I walked into the garage and looked at that genuine guardsman blue AC Cobra it blew me away. I would trade my Kirkham in a heartbeat for that car.
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The credit for the paint and the assembly should go to the shop that did the body-off restoration, which would leave little fit and finish done by the factory.
From the ad:
".... that has been totally body off restored about 8 years ago"
Pretty car.
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11-28-2008, 09:11 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
NH
Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
Posts: 19,019
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Ron,
Again you are right!
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11-28-2008, 09:37 AM
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ugh nevermind
Last edited by Redlinne; 11-28-2008 at 09:42 AM..
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11-28-2008, 09:46 AM
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I read in Shelby's magazine that Angliss bought the supercobra that went off the cliff into the pacific. Does anyone know if he still has that car or did he sell it?
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11-28-2008, 09:47 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Tucson,
AZ
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427" 351W
Posts: 562
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I would trade my Kirkham in a heartbeat for that car. My Kirkham is very well-built but compared to 30601 my Kirkham is as crude and unfinished as a stone hammer
The original cobras were crude compared to the Kirkham's, the body panels varied in size as much as an inch side to side. The Kirkham's are far better material and craftsmanship. Not much thought behind that remark!
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11-28-2008, 09:57 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Atlanta,
GA
Cobra Make, Engine: CAV GT40 with 331 KC
Posts: 2,187
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Originally Posted by 4pipes
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That is beautiful!
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11-28-2008, 10:25 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 427 SC
Posts: 388
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I imagine ChipBeck has his Kirkham finished more or less like it was delivered from Kirkham. Probably not much interior other than powder coated sheetmetal and probably not painted. Compare that with beautiful paint and interior work on CSX30601 and you should be able to see his point.
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Originally Posted by thorconstr
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I would trade my Kirkham in a heartbeat for that car. My Kirkham is very well-built but compared to 30601 my Kirkham is as crude and unfinished as a stone hammer
The original cobras were crude compared to the Kirkham's, the body panels varied in size as much as an inch side to side. The Kirkham's are far better material and craftsmanship. Not much thought behind that remark!
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11-28-2008, 10:46 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
Posts: 9,591
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kris-kincaid
I imagine ChipBeck has his Kirkham finished more or less like it was delivered from Kirkham. Probably not much interior other than powder coated sheetmetal and probably not painted. Compare that with beautiful paint and interior work on CSX30601 and you should be able to see his point.
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I guess I don't see the interior work, but I'm not an expert. There are a couple of door hinge covers (by the way where do you get these?), carpet on the rear bulkhead and door pockets/panels. Am I missing something? Beautiful car no doubt, but the Kirkhams can do this at their shop as well.
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11-28-2008, 12:16 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Las Vegas,
NV
Cobra Make, Engine: 427 SC
Posts: 388
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Am I missing something?
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Yes:
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
but I'm not an expert
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Shelby has the covers and they fit a Kirkham perfectly.
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
There are a couple of door hinge covers (by the way where do you get these?)
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11-28-2008, 01:23 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
NH
Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
Posts: 19,019
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Mickmate has covers in aluminum so they can be painted, polished or what ever you want!
The plastic ones can also be bought from Cobra Restorers.
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