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12-23-2008, 08:05 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: East Greenbush,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR Mark III, Carbed Explorer 302
Posts: 214
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Shelby's latest lawsuit, who's next?
Looks like if you can't win the first time, you try, try again 
http://www.iptrademarkattorney.com/c...ctory-five.pdf
Lost all respect in my eyes
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Tagged and road ready in NYSas of 6-5-09 Life is GREAT!
My build log http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/cobra-build-logs/80663-my-cobra-build.html
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12-23-2008, 08:18 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Mechanicsville!,
PA
Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC/331/5 forward
Posts: 922
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Strangely...
.....this is all..... confusingly similar.....to his previous horsesh*t.
Which he took on the chin. And supposedly came to grips with.
Confusingly similar.
Great choice of words.
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12-23-2008, 08:41 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Tucson,
Az
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance 427 Side-Oiler
Posts: 2,156
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Last edited by Jamo; 12-24-2008 at 02:18 AM..
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12-23-2008, 08:55 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Meriden,
CT
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427 SC s/n 718, 428 FE
Posts: 1,731
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I guess FFR is the first of ol' Shellbag's new assault on the hardtop kit car industry. It seems we're in for another ride on the long and winding road. Get the popcorn out, it's gonna be a long winter.
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12-23-2008, 09:02 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Syracuse,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 228, Roush 342R, 457HP/428TQ, modified AOD
Posts: 1,378
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Here you go, Bill:
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Nolite id cogere, cape malleum majorem - Don't force it, get a bigger hammer.
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12-23-2008, 09:55 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: fremont,
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Cobra Make, Engine: superformance/427 fe ford
Posts: 436
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i agree
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i sure love his cars but ****Deleted by Moderator**** i have since lost alot if not all respect for him, especially after he threw pete brock under the bus about the daytona coupe. he is becoming a histerical figure in the automotive community.  
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12-23-2008, 10:06 PM
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He's a bitter, senile ,old f--k.
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12-23-2008, 10:51 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
Posts: 14,448
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Gents...let's keep it to a discussion about the suit, and watch the personal remarks or we'll shut it down.
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12-23-2008, 11:07 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Driftwood,
TX
Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Cobra, 427 side oiler
Posts: 1,850
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If I build something and someone else comes along and takes it for gain without compensating me, they deserve to be sued and sued again. Anyone who has commercially gained from the Shelby's property or the Cobra and anything related to it should have had to pay a royalty or at least been granted consent. I have personally suffered from others who have stolen my intellectual property and patents and it sucks the big one.
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12-24-2008, 01:42 AM
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Location: Tucson,
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Ol-Shel may have a case with this one IMO. Unlike the Cobra, Brock designed the coupe body while an employee of Shelby American.
This should be interesting.
Larry
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12-24-2008, 01:58 AM
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Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: Carmichael, ca. USA,
Ca
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR-4000 under construction
Posts: 235
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I don't see this lawsuit against FFR going anywhere as the trade dress infringement on the Cobra as well as the Daytona Coupe was settled in Federal Court in 2002, what has me worried is that Shelby has included FFCobra.com in this one along with a shop that builds FFR's for people. If Shelby gets his foot in the door on this one on the website who's the next big one to fall?
Don
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12-24-2008, 05:58 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Cape Town, South Africa/Mainz, Germany,
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x-mess
"Nice" Christmas present for FFR though.
BTW, if those who made profit from building replicas should pay to CS, will those who lost money get compensation from CS?
Let me get some popcorn!
Dom
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12-24-2008, 06:02 AM
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This is interesting. I'm no lawyer, but the Daytona Coupe may be a legitimate argument. The part about ffcobra.com seems a bit hokey. They state ffcobra.com uses the wording Shelby Cobra to advertise Factory Five, but I've never seen the word Shelby on there except maybe in the forums.
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12-24-2008, 06:33 AM
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Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: penn.,
Posts: 2,559
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This place should give the Old Grouch a little fairer treatment than the KooLaid drinkers. Thanks for keepin'it civil, Jammer. that said, let the courts deside this one also.
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12-24-2008, 07:01 AM
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Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: cleveland,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4000, 427
Posts: 1,999
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Who never loses ? The lawyers.
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12-24-2008, 07:02 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
Posts: 2,616
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Lucky for all of us that other car manufacturers aren't as petty as ole Shel.
Think about all the other re-bodied and fabricated replicas (33 Fords, Anglias, Willy's, etc.) that would be sued out of existence.
Shel, go quietly from this world!
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12-24-2008, 07:06 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Rockford / Mesa, AZ,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR, 347, 462 hp, 4 barrel
Posts: 487
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Does CS smell blood? Poor economy, shock issue, release of 33 Hot Rod, working on exact copy of **** Smith's 198 Cobra: FFR could be over extended in 2009. What a better time to hit FFR again, and add in the rest. I do not like this at all.
Lee
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12-24-2008, 07:12 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
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From what I heard, the Shelby booth at SEMA was fairly close to the FFR booth.
FFR had lots of crowds and interest in their cars, while the Shelby booth was fairly empty.
Coincidence? I don't think so!
I think their lawyers are going to try and BK FFR (or force a settlement) or they will kill them with defense costs.
The guy with the deepest pockets wins. Guess who that will be?
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12-24-2008, 07:42 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Meriden,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427 SC s/n 718, 428 FE
Posts: 1,731
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Maybe he's gettin' ready to make some 'continuation' Daytonas and doesn't want the competition. He can sell 'em for six figures to some guys who'll call 'em real. Does anyone know how many 'hardtop' manufacturers are out there? This may just be the first volley.
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12-24-2008, 08:27 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Tipp City,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR1115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elmariachi
If I build something and someone else comes along and takes it for gain without compensating me, they deserve to be sued and sued again. Anyone who has commercially gained from the Shelby's property or the Cobra and anything related to it should have had to pay a royalty or at least been granted consent. I have personally suffered from others who have stolen my intellectual property and patents and it sucks the big one.
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If you believe so strongly then you support Hurricane being sued out of existence or anyone doing business with them?
I took a quick look at other manufactures web sites concerning the metatags issue and EM, Shelly Valley, Hurricane, Lone Star, Unique & ERA all do the same as FFR and I don't think they pay CS anything so are they next?
How deep will this go?
Will other local builders be targeted?
Will this site be shutdown? After all, they are selling advertising to these rogue companies. Guess they should also delete any threads mentioning the London Cobra Show and the raffle for charity.
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