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Is Tony planning to offer kits or turnkeys? Do you have contact information for him?

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I like it, wish I could afford one. It would look good sitting next to the Cobra.
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I have always hoped that they could/would figure out a way to start producing an "affordable" Aluminum car.
I saw the one they built and had on display at Dynamic in Ohio and thought it was beautifully done. -Had a round-tube frame also. (Tout here on CC owns it today).

Just too expensive to produce I suppose. And without the ability to keep cost down, they would be in direct competition with Kirkham - who I think produces a terrific product, to say the least.

SPF built two aluminum Cobras as I understand it. The other one is here in Tucson.
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so i have to ask........................since this site caters to to manufacturers of cobras, along with all the other great things this site has to offer-cc plug- does that mean that the GS guys can hang out too?????????????????????? ahhhh jezzzzzzz.
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A tube chassis, modern brakes, tires, new LS7 motor and T56 tranny...that could be alot of fun. And you wouldn't have to listen to all the purists rant at the local car show that you cut up one of their precious 'lil cars (wait, wait...that might be the best part, those early 'vette guys are a little kooky).
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Old 01-22-2009, 07:18 AM
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I was thinking about the car that you can see on the ERA site under Run and Gun 2000.
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A tube chassis, modern brakes, tires, new LS7 motor and T56 tranny...that could be alot of fun. And you wouldn't have to listen to all the purists rant at the local car show that you cut up one of their precious 'lil cars (wait, wait...that might be the best part, those early 'vette guys are a little kooky).

"......cut up one of their precious 'lil cars....." ?????

These precious little cars are going for six-figures today (high six-figures for a 67 BB). Why would someone want to cut one of these cars up to make a "clone" and dramatically reduce it's value?
Much better to purchase a replica, IMHO.
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A shop in our Long Island NY area with a racing background had a blue/white striped replica Grand Sport built by Mongoose . It was a beautiful car powered by a 502 BB. I thought the car was phenomenal ! I recall about 10 years ago watching a Grand Sport rumble past a restaurant as we ate dinner. I immediately said Wow ! If I ever got out of my cobra replica that's what i'd want ! I told a few guys in our cobra club who did get to see it. I was sure the Grand Sport would be a big hit in our area. The shop manager drove the car every day. As folks admired the car he passed out literature with offers for turnkey delivery. They had the car on consignment for much of this past summer driving it 2-3 nights per week to car shows and cruise nights. It made two appearances at a weekly 1000+ musclecar cruise night . The Grand Sport always had a small crowd around it but not one serious sale offer. The car was eventually returned to Mongoose who I undestand may have entertained a late offer by one interested customer.
I realize much sales depends upon the person presenting it but I truly thought this car would just....sell itself !! Nada.
I believe this ad depicts the actual model car my friend was showing around.
http://www.mongoosems.com/cars_turnkey.htm
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Is Tony planning to offer kits or turnkeys? Do you have contact information for him?

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Kevin
Don't know if he's doing kits or turnkeys. He probably would do it as you wanted, much like ERA. Tony paints many of the ERA cars (he did mine).
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Default Superformance's Grand Sport...

Looks like they are taking orders...

http://superformance.org/supernews/g...roduction.html



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I heard that the roller will be $80K+
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Default Superformance Grand Sport News Release

Says on the news Release what the roller price will be...

http://superformance.org/supernews/g...roduction.html



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In this market, they will have to eventually discount them, after the initial "rush" of orders.

There are so many actual Corvettes out there that are real turds and not worth restoring that it may be cheaper to buy one of them and do a GS replica.
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I don't know, if you look at all the other introductory prices on that site, not one of them ever went down in price, and all of them went up soon after by at least $10k. Mebee they will include one of them new webbers with the burner on the side as an incentive. Mmmmmmm.


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I don't know, if you look at all the other introductory prices on that site, not one of them ever went down in price, and all of them went up soon after by at least $10k. Mebee they will include one of them new webbers with the burner on the side as an incentive. Mmmmmmm.


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Especially the backdraft webbers with IR. I actually used to like the GS Corvettes until that geaser guy from Cramel ruined it for me. I think he still visits here once in a while too. McD00 if I remember correctly.

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Tony Stefan Makes a Grand Sport coupe and is working on a roadster. He hand builds the bodies and tube frame. The only thing different from the original is C5 front suspension, and he uses an original cage which are readiily available. It's an awesome accurate masterpiece. Tony was very instrumental in the original design and building of ERA cars. Look him up at tonysautobuilders.com
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Tonysautobuilders.com makes a totally hand formed Grand Sport . . . extremely accurate. Tony was very instrumental in the original ERA cars and is a stickler for originality!
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Tony's site say prices start... START @ $160,000.00 yipes. Thanks for the link.

If the new Superformance 1963 Corevette Grand Sport is as good as the rest of their cars, theirs should be an awesome car for half the price!


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There are so many actual Corvettes out there that are real turds and not worth restoring that it may be cheaper to buy one of them and do a GS replica.
But the Grand Sports are not based upon the production Corvette frame, they were a twin tube design and the bodies are quite different in construction (larger, thinner panels as opposed to the production heavy gauge FRP that was bonded into the single body)
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But the Grand Sports are not based upon the production Corvette frame, they were a twin tube design and the bodies are quite different in construction (larger, thinner panels as opposed to the production heavy gauge FRP that was bonded into the single body)
Agreed.

However, there are more accurate Cobra replicas and less accurate Cobra replicas. Ditto for GS Vettes. If someone wanted a GS replica and were willing to cut up one of the many Vettes on the market that are in poor condition, then they could build it close enough.
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