New 09 Corvette ZR1

[REAL 1]

Ford GT has 550hp stock and goes like stink in stock form.

A few Heffner mods like tune, Ford Racing exhaust puts you up around 600 hp. With a pulley 650hp.

[undy]

It needs a lot of boost to make that Triton displacement deficient tractor motor make any amount of horsepower

There's more heritage in the Corvette marque that a Ford built "replica" GT40 could ever emulate. If you want to count a significant racing heritage, Corvette's the winner there too. The GT40 was a flash-in-the-pan whilst the Vette has soldiered on for 56+ years. I like the Ford GT but when people get on their un-justified high-horses...

OBTW... the ZR1 doesn't need a tune, pulley etc to already knock down near 650 hp. It does it stock. That 6.2L has the ability to go much higher too, need be.

flame on...

Dave

[Cobra #3170]

Originally Posted by undy

It needs a lot of boost to make that Triton displacement deficient tractor motor make any amount of horsepower

There's more heritage in the Corvette marque that a Ford built "replica" GT40 could ever emulate. If you want to count a significant racing heritage, Corvette's the winner there too. The GT40 was a flash-in-the-pan whilst the Vette has soldiered on for 56+ years. I like the Ford GT but when people get on their un-justified high-horses...

OBTW... the ZR1 doesn't need a tune, pulley etc to already knock down near 650 hp. It does it stock. That 6.2L has the ability to go much higher too, need be.

flame on...

Dave

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While I admire the ZRI for what it is, it is still a Corvette and has such a strong family resemblance that it is not unique in appearance. The GT was not engineered to be nearly as competitive as it could be. It has a good deal of roll under steer to make it stable for unskilled drivers (most owners).
The tires are a fairly hard compound and have too high a sidewall to function really well on the stock rims (this was done for appearance sake).
It is a far superior platform however with much higher torsional stiffness than the Vette, better weight distribution and a super efficient transaxle (5% drive train loss). I have said it before but will repeat: Changing springs, revalving the shocks, adding a correct alignment along with Corvette or Viper tires and wheel sizes would make the car competitive with anything out there. The GT could have been set up that way but that was not the intent of the designers. I am also not a big fan of the modular engine but it does well for 331 inches and can produce more than adequate power with a small boost increase. Rear wheel HP on stock GT's is in the 535 range because of that efficient transaxle. These cars are speed limited to 205 MPH but will go 211-212 if the limiter is removed. Which would you rather have?

[SP01715]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Ford GT has 550hp stock and goes like stink in stock form.

A few Heffner mods like tune, Ford Racing exhaust puts you up around 600 hp. With a pulley 650hp.

I will take your word for it because you own one, but different sources have different numbers (some list it at 500 some at 550) for the GT. Like I said I love the car, but I think Ford could have made it nastier from the factory since it is a super car compared to others with a lot better stats. I would have to change the pulley if I owned one.

[REAL 1]

Well, to each his own. In my mind and based on history and race results you can't even compare the Ford GT40 to the Vette. The GT40 is a legend and part of automotive lore and the current FGT is already an automotive icon.

The new ZR1. Its neat, big motor, big supercharger but in the end its a Corvette with bigger bells and whistles. The engineering on the FGT is heads and tails superior. Oh, BTW the FGT ran away with and won the European FIA championship in 2008.

But, hey whatever floats your boat. I'll take a FGT 10 out of 10 times over a ZR1. I think a majority of people would too.

[RedBarchetta]

I drive an '02 Z06 daily (great, fun car to drive) and I have the SPF for fun.

I'd gladly give them both up and drive a Yugo to the office each day if I could trade them 2 for 1 for a Ford GT.

[rms427]

When I purchased my C6 Z06 I also looked at the Ford GT. The GT has it with looks and WOW factor but in some ways it's even less practical than my Cobra. It has no storage and I would have to spend extra bucks to just fit in it. I'm 6'6" tall and just don't fit in the Ford. I can take the Cobra on a trip but it would be very difficult to do that with a Ford GT because of the lack of storage space. The price difference was also a factor but the biggest reason for going with the Corvette was it's practicality. I use it as a daily driver and took a 6,700 mile road trip in it. On the trip I averaged 25.5 MPG. From everything I have read the ZR1 is even more practical except for the reduced gas mileage. So the Ford GT is a fantastic car but it's a toy like the Cobra. The ZR1 is supercar that can be used as a daily driver.

[REAL 1]

Lets not kid ourselves here. The vast majority of persons buying a ZR1 or a FGT is not going to use either for a daily driver. Neither cars picture can be found under the definition of "practical".

If I bought a ZR1 I certainly wouldn't be using it as a daily driver for many reasons.

[undy]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Well, to each his own. In my mind and based on history and race results you can't even compare the Ford GT40 to the Vette. The GT40 is a legend and part of automotive lore and the current FGT is already an automotive icon.

The new ZR1. Its neat, big motor, big supercharger but in the end its a Corvette with bigger bells and whistles. The engineering on the FGT is heads and tails superior. Oh, BTW the FGT ran away with and won the European FIA championship in 2008.

But, hey whatever floats your boat. I'll take a FGT 10 out of 10 times over a ZR1. I think a majority of people would too.

Given the time and motivation I could prove you wrong on most counts, technology, innovation, torsional rigidity, racing heritage/wins and especially the desires of automotive enthusiats, not just Ford fans. (I'm one too, but acknowledge there are other wonders in the universe outside Ford) It's sort of a moot point (dumb on my part anyway) arguing Chevy over Ford on a Ford oriented forum. So for the sake of harmony I'll give you the nod on this one and let it go, almost. Long live the GT. Oops, almost forgot.. Ford killed it, again.

[Tenrocca]

Clarkson (Top Gear) bought a FGT, hated and sent it back. He couldnt rave enough about the ZR1 the cross US trip. He has driven every exotic on the planet, so probably has a pretty balanced perspective.

Cheers