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03-31-2009, 11:17 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salzburg,
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Need help identifying my car
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03-31-2009, 11:55 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Not a Contemporary (no round tube main rail), looks more like a CMC (Classic Motor Carriage) chassis with the open front frame horns and the square tubing.....of course I may be mistaken.
Bill S.
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03-31-2009, 12:13 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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Not sure who's it is but I am sure it is not a Contemporary.
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03-31-2009, 03:24 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Freedomia,,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Coupe,Blue w/white stripes SB; Roadster, Blue w/white stripes BB w/2-4s; SPF installer/Hot Rod-Custom Car builder
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I'm not sure either, but if it's a CMC they went to a lot of work to install a Jag rear.
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03-31-2009, 03:40 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Originally Posted by Woodz428
I'm not sure either, but if it's a CMC they went to a lot of work to install a Jag rear.
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That is what threw me as well, but the rest of the box chassis (open ends) reminds me of a very early CMC.......
Bill S.
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03-31-2009, 04:32 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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The welds look pretty crude to me...maybe a homebuilt chassis with someone's body?? If that is a CMC chassis they should go out of business...oh wait..too late.
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04-01-2009, 03:43 AM
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Has anybody pictures of an CMC frame and witch year was the frame build. wen does CMC start and finish her buissnes.
Martin
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04-01-2009, 03:50 AM
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Martin,
I am not sure this will be of any help but some of the people that posted there may be able to help you.
Contemporary Classic Motorcar History
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04-01-2009, 05:19 AM
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Location: St. Lucia, West Indies,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
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That link relates to Contemporary Classic replicas. What Martin wants is info on CMC - Classic Motor Carriages. With a Jaguar rear suspension, the frame is unlikely to be a CMC unless the previous owner has done some extensive reworking (and that might well be the case).
Also, the body does not appear to be from that manufacturer. The rear cowl area at the back of the cockpit, for example is different. The CMC bodies have a deep vertical lip in that area, as opposed to a thinner "rolled" edge like most Cobras, including the one in Martin's pictures. I'll try to dig up some CMC pictures to see if we can at least compare chassis features.
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04-01-2009, 05:27 AM
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Go here to see some pics of a finished CMC: http://www.bjmotors.biz/1966CobraRep_0440.html Look at the 7th pic to see the rear cowl area. I'll look for some frame pictures.
EDIT: In the engine compartment, there are some strong similarities in the firewall area as well as the rear corners of the hood opening. I am starting to think that the car is indeed a CMC product that the owner was attempting to make more "authentic" by adding an independent rear suspension, aluminum panelling and modifications to the cockpit.
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04-01-2009, 05:39 AM
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I do not think it is a CMC. The footwells are quiote different than a CMC. The radiator mounting is different. The legs where the seats would mount are also different. The box tubing for the legs looks to be the same size as the frame, and CMC made their legs out of square tubing. Matbe a better picture of the body where the fuel filler is located? That is usually a dead giveaway.
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04-01-2009, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Buzz
Go here to see some pics of a finished CMC: http://www.bjmotors.biz/1966CobraRep_0440.html Look at the 7th pic to see the rear cowl area. I'll look for some frame pictures.
EDIT: In the engine compartment, there are some strong similarities in the firewall area as well as the rear corners of the hood opening. I am starting to think that the car is indeed a CMC product that the owner was attempting to make more "authentic" by adding an independent rear suspension, aluminum panelling and modifications to the cockpit.
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The rear hood opening has an aluminum plate attached where as the CMC in the ad has it as part of the body, the door hinge looks wider than the one on the CMC . Finally, and this has nothing to do with the car in question...but that engine in the ad IS NOT a 351C as is listed, it's a Windsor of some sort.
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04-01-2009, 11:03 AM
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It looks the previous owner of 427Snake's car began extensive modifications to his body and chassis. The drivers footbox is removed, The one on the passenger side looks to be fabricated, there is fresh aluminum work in the pedal area and there are signs of cut fiberglass everywhere, including the rear corners of the hood opening where the aluminum plates are added on and use the same rubber bumpers seen on the wider 'glass pieces on CMC/Streetbeasts cars. It would be interesting to find out what exactly it is, though.
427Snake, if you're still following, what does the tag on the driver's side of the firewall say?
BTW, the CMC in the link I posted doesn't belong to me so the Cleveland/Windsor issue would have to be taken up with whoever the seller is.
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04-01-2009, 12:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz
It looks the previous owner of 427Snake's car began extensive modifications to his body and chassis. The drivers footbox is removed, The one on the passenger side looks to be fabricated, there is fresh aluminum work in the pedal area and there are signs of cut fiberglass everywhere, including the rear corners of the hood opening where the aluminum plates are added on and use the same rubber bumpers seen on the wider 'glass pieces on CMC/Streetbeasts cars. It would be interesting to find out what exactly it is, though.
427Snake, if you're still following, what does the tag on the driver's side of the firewall say?
BTW, the CMC in the link I posted doesn't belong to me so the Cleveland/Windsor issue would have to be taken up with whoever the seller is.
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Hi Buzz
There are a lot of modificatione on my car.
The aluminium is my work because the fiberglas work was very bad.
The jaguar rear end is not original. Somebody change the ford rear.
The Tag says CC-MCC(USA)
Vin SK8160PA
Replacement Identification Number SK8160PA
Control Number: 372530
state of california
departement of motor vehicles
Martin
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