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05-01-2009, 07:14 AM
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Backdraft Racing Dealer
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
Posts: 5,119
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I'm trying Todd. Maybe I need to give away FF t-shirts at the next one?
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05-01-2009, 07:15 AM
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No we cannot all just get along, that would be socialism or communism right? I guess communism is where you are told to get along, and socialism is where everyone thinks the get along.
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05-01-2009, 07:15 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn
I'm trying Todd. Maybe I need to give away FF t-shirts at the next one?
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Naah, give away an ERA instead....  |
05-01-2009, 07:24 AM
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I agree with ERA, both being "kit" cars they could relate easier.
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Naah, give away an ERA instead.... |
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05-01-2009, 12:28 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Katy,
TX
Cobra Make, Engine: None yet!
Posts: 200
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Originally Posted by madmaxx
I agree with ERA, both being "kit" cars they could relate easier.
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Ouch!!! 
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Alan in Katy, TX
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05-01-2009, 02:59 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Diego,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF1715, Roush Built 434 ci Stroker, Dart Block, Ported AFR 205 Heads... 561 hp / 547 tq, Former Roush Show Car, Completed and Prepped By Olthoff Racing.
Posts: 1,066
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Originally Posted by Blas
Without a doubt, the finest wiring job I have ever seen behind a dashboard. I've seen NASA satellites that did not have wiring done that well...
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I think the wiring behind the dash of my boat beats it. All it takes is time and a lot of zip ties... 
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05-01-2009, 07:28 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: St. Louis, Missouri,
MO
Cobra Make, Engine: SPO 2715
Posts: 1,648
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blas
And thoughts as to how much time and $$$ he has in the car?
I would think that to be an important factor.
Either way, be it a FFR - Era - SPF or any other replica out there...but there is no taking away for the over-all quality of the build...
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Agreed.
One of maybe 4 FFR's that are the best build I have ever seen. Seems like a lot of money for what it is. The Levy FFR's hold better $'s in resale, because they are Levy built. But not sure if a built FFR to this level would hold it's value because it was not built by a "known" builder.
Very nice car, congrat's to the builder.
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05-01-2009, 07:38 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Great Asp
Seems like a lot of money for what it is.
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Like an exhibition of finely carved and decorated gourds. Beautiful, time-intensive, and uniquely crafted... but gourds nonetheless. |
05-02-2009, 03:51 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Covington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance # 532, 466 BB, 560HP
Posts: 3,027
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Back in 1998, after having done considerable research into buying a Cobra, I had decided on an ERA. I felt without a doubt that it was the best available car at that time.
Not long after making my decision, I found a used one for sale at Park Place which also happened to sell Superformance cars. Well I went to look at the ERA, and it was a POS. The body was cocked on the frame so bad, that the tire to wheel well clearance at the front and rear was off by 1.5 inches. The wiring looked to have been done by a 5 year old. It was painted black, and to tell you the truth, I believe I could have done a better job with a paint brush and then sanding it smooth.
The point I'm trying to make is that builder "A" can buy the best kit available, and because of lack of experience, or just because he does not care, turn out a piece of crap car like I looked at in 1998. On the other hand, builder "B" can buy a cheap kit, but through hard work and paying close attention to all the minor details, can end up with a true piece of art.
When a car is built by an individual, the outcome will always reflect the effort that was put into it by the builder, not necessarily the quality, or price of the kit that it started from.
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05-02-2009, 05:19 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverback51
Well I went to look at the ERA, and it was a POS.
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Well, that can certainly happen, but generally, ERAs are considered to be " gourdian-nots."
Yes, I can hear the groans from that one.  |
05-02-2009, 11:31 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Covington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance # 532, 466 BB, 560HP
Posts: 3,027
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Well, that can certainly happen, but generally, ERAs are considered to be " gourdian-nots."
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Had absolutely nothing to do with the manufacturer, and everything to do with the person that built it.
I was amazed that someone would go to the trouble of buying one of the better kits out there, and then just slam the thing together. What a shame.
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05-02-2009, 11:33 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverback51
Had absolutely nothing to do with the manufacturer, and everything to do with the person that built it.
I was amazed that someone would go to the trouble of buying one of the better kits out there, and then just slame the thing together. What a shame.
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Maybe it was used for a bit of "off-roading." That happens from time to time.... |
05-03-2009, 11:08 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Burbank,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR # 5519
Posts: 42
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GarageFreaks car is AWESOME! And HE built it, not a factory. Try to remember that little fact.
And who cares what it cost him. Its not your money.
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05-03-2009, 11:09 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by 02roush
GarageFreaks car is AWESOME! And HE built it, not a factory. Try to remember that little fact.
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You can't "try to remember." You either remember, or you don't.  |
05-03-2009, 12:29 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: St. Louis, Missouri,
MO
Cobra Make, Engine: SPO 2715
Posts: 1,648
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Originally Posted by patrickt
You can't "try to remember." You either remember, or you don't. |
I'm trying to remember where I heard that before.... |
05-03-2009, 12:34 PM
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No doubt GarageFreaks can build a car, but not everyone has his skill, time or resources and therefore you get the whole spectrum of builds in the "kit" car world. I doubt gagargefreak can do open heart surgery sucessfully, no big deal, different people excell at different things and if a surgeon decides to buy a roller is he any less of a car person, or less accomplished?
Quote:
Originally Posted by 02roush
GarageFreaks car is AWESOME! And HE built it, not a factory. Try to remember that little fact.
And who cares what it cost him. Its not your money.
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05-03-2009, 12:42 PM
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Half-Ass Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madmaxx
...and if a surgeon decides to buy a roller is he any less of a car person, or less accomplished?
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Personally, I don't want my surgeon's fingers working working around spinning fans, errant hammers, hot primary pipes, etc. It's pretty hard to do serious work on a Cobra and not hurt yourself from time to time. |
05-03-2009, 04:09 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
It's pretty hard to do serious work on a Cobra and not hurt yourself from time to time.
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It doesn't have to be serious work. Has anyone ever safety wired their knock-offs without suffering at least 1 puncture wound? The first time I tried it, I looked as if I had slapped around a porcupine.
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05-03-2009, 04:36 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 1,330
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwd
It doesn't have to be serious work. Has anyone ever safety wired their knock-offs without suffering at least 1 puncture wound? The first time I tried it, I looked as if I had slapped around a porcupine.
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And never try to drill a hole in a piece while holding it in your lap. Unless, of course, she's had a couple of martinis. |
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