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Old 06-28-2009, 02:18 PM
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Kinda cool. Here's a shot of my ERA with the jack under the frame at the front wheel -- the front wheel is a couple of inches above the ground. I had a trouble light lying on the garage floor behind the rear wheel and you can see the back wheel is also off the ground. Now we've all heard horror stories about the rigidity of the original Cobra's frame. Do the new Shelby cars pick the rear wheel up when you jack the front wheel? Or are the continuation frames "wiggly" like the originals?

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Old 06-28-2009, 02:20 PM
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I can do that with my ERA and my FFR
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Old 06-28-2009, 02:27 PM
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SPF does it as well.
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Old 06-28-2009, 02:29 PM
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I can do that with my ERA and my FFR
An FFR too? I'm shocked. But I'm pretty sure I've seen shots of the originals with a front wheel jacked up and the rear wheel firmly planted on the ground. If I'm wrong I'm sure I'll be corrected tout de suite.
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This situation really depends on where the jack is along the wheelbase and how much wheel travel in rebound there is at each end. No magic happening here.
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Old 06-28-2009, 02:58 PM
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This situation really depends on where the jack is along the wheelbase and how much wheel travel in rebound there is at each end. No magic happening here.
That makes sense. If there's a lot of wheel travel the frame could go right up and the wheel stay on the ground. Alright, I'll go back to sleep now....
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My Cardiac lifts both same-side wheels when jacking at the front or the rear, just like shown in the photo. Course it isn't made any more. Very stiff frame.
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Old 06-28-2009, 03:59 PM
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My Cardiac lifts both same-side wheels when jacking at the front or the rear, just like shown in the photo. Course it isn't made any more. Very stiff frame.
Uhhh, when you get pulled over by the cops in your Cobra do you call that a "cardiac arrest?"
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Haven't been pulled over yet, but I'll keep that in mind should it happen. Our local cops here in New Mexico are a humourless lot.

The company that built my car was in Vancouver, Canada and probably failed because of that and not because of the quality, which is pretty good. It's hard to get a finished car across the border to the U.S. and titled/registered. Mine came across in pieces and was completed in Washington.
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Yes for Kirkham also. The suspension is really rigid on these cars so the wheels lift when you jack them up.

I typically jack up one side, or end, and then support it with jack stands. When I was building the car I was under the rear working on the fuel lines. I didn't notice that one of the front tires was slightly off the ground. When I was threading one of the lines through I pushed up in the rear and the car pivoted down onto the wheel that was up slightly! Scared the heck out of me! Being balanced nearly 50/50 also makes life interesting.

Anytime I lift the car I make sure that it's down on four points. Helps keep the underwear clean...
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Both my Hurricane and also Midstates cars did the same thing also when I jacked the up
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My Butler does it too!!
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proves nuthing. my 96 taurus tractor does the same thing, just depends on where you place the jack
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Don't you find it odd though Pat?? ... When you put it back down only 3 tires are touching the concrete.
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As has been stated it depended on where I had the jack, but just a few inches back on the frame and in front of the door and mine would do that. I had a basic Classic Roadster Frame that had been altered to make it much stronger than the original.

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patrickt Pat if you want a real test of the frame, get 3 wheels off the ground with a jack. been there, done that. Still no fiberglass of body noise after 13 years of abuse. If you can find a crest in the road like railroad tracks, go fast enough you have a 4 wheel air car. Just watch out on the landings, go soft, the hard ones leave sparks and marks on the frame. This I will not try. I don't and a don't have a pilots licence. Rick
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I do that most of the time.

The other one is to jack the back and both rear tires come off the pavement.

Nice Jack.

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I do that most of the time.

The other one is to jack the back and both rear tires come off the pavement.

Nice Jack.

Well, FWIW my jack was all the way at the front of the of the frame. I found it to be kinda of neat... but the obvious tenor from the responses here is "Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, show us something we don't know you Dumbshi_...."
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When I jack up my FFR, ALL the wheels come off the ground
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When I jack up my FFR, ALL the wheels come off the ground
It must be that hydrogen effect. You know I've heard that using hydrogen in the tires instead of nitrogen results in a terrific burnout... but I never knew it had other benefits until now....
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