Continuation Cars

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Got the Bug

Hey, whatya say we start a new thread exactly like this thread in say a month or two so we can re-visit history and confirm the facts.

I'm going to take my "South African coffee mug" out for a drive tomorrow.

So, you're telling me that the completion cars and continuation cars have been discussed before?

[STL Mark]

And what a great day for coffee today. Got the old mug up past 100, plenty of waves from other coffee lovers, wind in my hair and home without a problem. Damn I love coffee in my oh-so-special component assembled, officially licensed, 1965 titled, 650 horse-powered, neighbor disturbing, tire spinning, gas guzzling - MUG !

[Got the Bug]

Originally Posted by STL Mark

And what a great day for coffee today. Got the old mug up past 100, plenty of waves from other coffee lovers, wind in my hair and home without a problem. Damn I love coffee in my oh-so-special component assembled, officially licensed, 1965 titled, 650 horse-powered, neighbor disturbing, tire spinning, gas guzzling - MUG !

Excellent! The first step to recovery is awareness of the replica Tupperware enclosure that you're driving.

[STL Mark]

NO WAY MAN - this ain't no Tupperware. I'm deeply offended that you would refer to my mug as tupperware. There are hundreds of differences between common tupperware and my very special mug. In fact, my mug is registered in a book with other special mugs - so I know it's special. I paid more for my mug than you paid for your mug - it's a REAL mug. Not everybody can get a mug like this one, and you can get tupperware at Wal-Mart. So, just drop that whole tupperware thang.

[RodKnock]

Maybe Kramer will come out with a "Mug Book."

I bet everyone when they waved said "Look at that mug."

[STL Mark]

Yep - and a guy at the gas station asked if it was a REAL mug - I said YES.

[KevinW]

a bit late to the scene, but the funniest thread ive ever read.

the pavlov thing - superb - still laughing.
evan- you're great. keep it up. btw i cant see your car pics.

[khansmith]

So.....my car is like cold war rip off coffee mug that has a picture of "mick the mice"?

[Bernica]

I believe SPF only received the license from Shelby after Mr Shelby sicked his lawyers on them for using the Shelby Cobra name. He got his pound of flesh and granted them the license in the settlement. I recall the actual court docs were floating around on the net a few years ago.

[Excaliber]

Well there was a serious lawsuit going on between Shelby and a couple of other manufacturers. Notably FFR and SPF. As I understand it SPF came to the conclusion that it was just good business to settle with Shelby and stop spending money on costly litigation. OK, makes sense. Beyond that I believe SPF's position is that Shelby really DOES have a case and thus they (SPF) support his efforts sue OTHER manufacturers. That's that part that really burns my azz.

I don't agree with their position, me and a few thousand other people. Shelby lost the right to the Cobra body shape fair and square after much deliberation and much money was spent in court(s). It passed to the public domain, where anyone is free to copy and use that shape. No replica manufacturer owe's him anymore than a "tip of the hat" and a "hearty thank you", which he deserves, but financially, nothing more that. Shelby continues yet another suit against FFR, while SPF basks in the glory of a Shelby license deal. Disgusting...

[Bernica]

Yep. Disgusting. And the lawyers get richer.....

[m5extc]

To clarify a few things, most of the comments are sort of right. CSX cars are produced by HST & Hi Tech. Although they are "the same" they have very distinctave differences. CSX cars are considered component vehicles. Superformance MkIII's are produced under a licensing agreement. The confusion is that the GT40 SPF IS a continuation car. The MkI Daytona coupe is as well. The MkII is now going to be sold only under the Shelby label under another recent deal. The SPF Grand Sport Corvette is another continuation car...the chassis numbers pick up and number 6, as the Duntov's only officially produced 5 Grand Sports. I hope this clears the air at least a little.

Andrei

[PANAVIA]

what if you like your mug just the way YOU made it. -- BTW: here is my mug.

[RodKnock]

Your mug is green too, just the other mug in your garage.

[REAL 1]

Whats wrong with lawyers getting richer? Works for me. We all work to succeed. I'm sure you would have no problem with yourselves getting richer at what you do.

[lineslinger]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Whats wrong with lawyers getting richer? Works for me

Nothing wrong with getting rich, I retain quite a few who do quite well, but they manage to display a little class to go along with it.

[REAL 1]

In general Client's generate the litigation. Without client's seeking to redress some claim there are no cases or need for courts. Lawyers advocate their client's position. Client's retain lawyers not the other way around.

I'm not clear on what the current Shelby suit is claiming However, SAI apparently thinks they have some claim or right to be vindicated and it is their right to pursue it should they want and have the funds to finance the litigation and feel its worth the expense.

What exactly is the claim(s) by SAI this time?

[Excaliber]

I'm not positive but I think the fundamental issue(s) have to do with FFR and related web site(s) improper use of the "name" Cobra. That could also include other "names" as well, like "427" or "Coupe" or any number of variations of "Shelby Lingo" (FIA, etc. etc.). In effect using the name(s) to promote their product, as it were, with a wink and a nod toward the web site(s) in question. Something about claiming the same people that own/run FFR are in fact "owners/operators" of these web sites. At least that is the argument being presented as I understand it.

It may also involve the "shape" of the Coupe, same song and dance we saw with the "shape" of the Cobra in that regard.

Shelby thinks he has a claim and a right to just about ANYTHING that even remotely related to SAI in some way, that's a given. Nothing's changed there. He certainly has the money to pursue it. IF he is successful he could potentially "corner the market", perhaps there is enough money at stake to take a shot at it? After all, he eventually wore down SPF who caved in to his demands, so while he "lost", he might have still "won" in that sense!

I don't buy into SPF's clever marketing ploy for a second with their talk about "Shelby deserves a piece of the action." BS, they puckered up and planted one right where Shelby wanted them to.

EDIT: Found a link to the actual court filed suit.
http://www.iptrademarkattorney.com/c...ctory-five.pdf

[SP01715]

SPF made a business decision. I am sure they weighed their options and made the decision they felt was best. When I was a business owner I had to make similar decisions. There were issues that came up that I would have loved to have fought, but sometimes I had to listen to the advice of my attorney and come to a compromise.

[Excaliber]

A business decision I can understand, eliminate the competition, increase the bottom line. In pursuit of this business decision they openly acknowledge and support the idea that Shelby is entitled to compensation for the shape, design of the Cobra body. In SPITE of the courts ruling otherwise.

Essentially they are giving the finger to the American courts, to anybody that doesn't pay up to the man, to themselves. It is grossly unethical.