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10-01-2009, 09:49 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bethesda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 6022, navy blue, period correct 427 SO
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CSX 6021 being sold at Barrett-Jackson in Vegas
I just opened up my Hemmings Muscle Machines and saw an ad for CSX 6021 being sold without reserve at Barrett-Jackson in Vegas this month. It caught my attention because I own 6022.
It will be interesting to see what it goes for. Hopefully more than the price of the last two that Stephen Becker sold, although I know that he does it mostly for marketing and he feels no-reserve auctions get more buzz.
Here's the link:
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...687&pop=0&it=1
I know there are a couple people on this forum looking for cars. If this goes anywhere close to the $60k+ of the last two, then its a heck of a deal.
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10-01-2009, 10:18 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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...that's a nice looking car.
From the description:
"The... body is strikingly finished in the LeMans-winning Shelby unique color, Guardsman Blue, a particularly rare color....."
That drew a chuckle...
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10-01-2009, 10:28 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Zero to 60 in under 3 seconds. That's fast. Don't try that at home. Hmmmm.
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10-01-2009, 10:39 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Is the windshield angle the same on the 4000/6000 series cars as the originals?
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10-01-2009, 10:43 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bethesda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 6022, navy blue, period correct 427 SO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Zero to 60 in under 3 seconds. That's fast. Don't try that at home. Hmmmm.
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That would seem to be on the optimistic side without slicks and maybe wheelie bars.....and even then not sure.
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10-01-2009, 08:40 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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I believe this is another Steve Becker car. He does a good job.
I didn't buy one of his last January in Scottsdale that sold for $85K.
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10-10-2009, 08:45 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 6022, navy blue, period correct 427 SO
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This car sold tonight for $117k - nice to see the market a bit better than the last few auctions.
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10-10-2009, 08:56 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcdoug
This car sold tonight for $117k - nice to see the market a bit better than the last few auctions.
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The announcer did mention that one of the oil pan bolts was broken.
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10-10-2009, 09:10 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4758, CSX 381 Keith Craft 482 w/ Weber 48 IDA's
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Just returned home from B-J. My jaw dropped when it passed the $110k mark. Happy but surprised.
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10-11-2009, 07:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
The announcer did mention that one of the oil pan bolts was broken.
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Easy 20 min fix that one....
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10-11-2009, 08:02 AM
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Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Arps/Burroughs/Hurricane/428FE
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I thought the announcer at BJ was a bit "glib" when he denounced other replicas as sort of quick and dirty $40,000. kits, but the Shelby as some fantastic machine with much better quality in the build. I took exception to the comment, but I guess the continuation cars do have the "real Shelby name" and therefore are naturally a better machine.
Naner Naner!
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10-11-2009, 08:24 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Bess
I thought the announcer at BJ was a bit "glib" when he denounced other replicas as sort of quick and dirty $40,000. kits, but the Shelby as some fantastic machine with much better quality in the build. I took exception to the comment, but I guess the continuation cars do have the "real Shelby name" and therefore are naturally a better machine.
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There was some fun poked in my house when that was said. It was almost like having Evan sitting in my living room.
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10-11-2009, 05:49 PM
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$128,700 with 10% buyers commission? Sal's at $75,000? What am I missing? Is blue worth more? Sideoiler versus 390? $53,700 can buy a lot of paint and an engine. The last couple of CSX's were in the 60K's.
I guess Evan is right. Real Shelbys get real premiums.
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10-11-2009, 06:06 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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While prices paid over the recent year for Continuation series vary, depending on car, auction, sellers motivation and buyers present and motivation this validates the "inherent value" in the fact that this was a "Shelby" and a "genuine Cobra" (and not a "replica" of one) and clearly perceived as such by buyers. This was even a fiberglass car.
You guys can flame on but the proof of what I've been saying is in the pudding.
Flame on.
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10-11-2009, 06:12 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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I'm still reeling from the "down and dirty kit car" remark....
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10-11-2009, 06:21 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
While prices paid over the recent year for Continuation series vary, depending on car, auction, sellers motivation and buyers present and motivation this validates the "inherent value" in the fact that this was a "Shelby" and a "genuine Cobra" (and not a "replica" of one) and clearly perceived as such by buyers. This was even a fiberglass car.
You guys can flame on but the proof of what I've been saying is in the pudding.
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So then what you are saying also goes to the two FFR "donor style builds" that went for $42,000 and $44,550 respectively. While logic dictates it is so do to the sale prices listed (funny how several of these cars end up back in the hands of their original sellers a week or two down the road), further review of just how a BJ auction is orchestrated,right down to the background sounds, music piped in, lighting, food/drink offered, etc shows that not all is as it seems. The fine folks at BJ have their auctions honed and tuned as if a Stratovarius violin. From the time a registered bidder walks through the door, BJ knows exactly what he has looked at, what he has eaten/drank, and in some cases his/her each and every footstep in and out of the door. Again they have it down to an art, and prices realized while at their auction are not to be considered "real world" values once that particular vehicles leaves the auction grounds. I say the above with confidence, not only as an outsider looking in this year, but someone who has participated in these auctions (both as a buyer and a seller) for quite some time. I'll leave the rest of the real vs not argument to the usual suspects as that is not what my post is about.
Bill S.
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10-11-2009, 07:49 PM
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did anyone get the f5 numbers of the 2 cars,(owner buybacks?) funny how donor builds are barely bring $25K on the open market.
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10-11-2009, 10:01 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF w/392CI stroker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
I'm still reeling from the "down and dirty kit car" remark....
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Let it go, Patrick. It was probably especially directed to the "dirty kit cars" with two roll bars.
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10-11-2009, 10:13 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2613 Titanium w/Black, Roush 402SR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedBarchetta
Let it go, Patrick. It was probably especially directed to the "dirty kit cars" with two roll bars.
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You're not talking about the cars with two roll bars that are covered with the protective insulation designed to prevent pipes from freezing?
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10-12-2009, 05:34 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got the Bug
You're not talking about the cars with two roll bars that are covered with the protective insulation designed to prevent pipes from freezing?
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Well then that excludes me. I'll have you know that my roll bar padding is the Kirkey $2 stuff that's fatter on one side than the other. Perfect for bending around the hoop. The pipe freezing stuff it way too expensive and not nearly as soft when you're tapping your noggin against it. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KIR-99001/
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