Club Nascar Forum???

RACER X #99 · #1 (**permalink**) 02-15-2003, 05:59 AM

Can you imagine in 20-30 years a website called Club Nascar with maybe 6000 members?
Owners will be asking which is the most accurate Nascar stockcar. Somebody will probably start a Nascar replica co. and maybe a Fiberglass stockcar.
The Ford, Chevy, Dodge arguments will go on forever. But there is one good thing to come of Club Nascar. No cruises and few Nascar wash and wax shows. They are not street legal and never will be so impromto street gatherings will never happen.
Still those wih large sums of expendable cash will be buying them and restoring them to better than new condition. Of course all will have in excess of 600 hp and maybe someday somebody will deceide to have a large gathering if stockcars so that owners can compare who has the best stockcar.
Right now there are quite a lot of guys with retired Nascar stockcar but these guys are racers and we all know what racers do with their car, they damage them while racing and then they sell them to Nascar collectors who restore them to like perfect and try to find a place to show them off.
Just like what happened to Cobra racecars years ago. Now owned mostly by people who like to show them off rather than race them.
I am glad Nascar stockcars were never street cars.

mr bruce · #2 (**permalink**) 02-15-2003, 06:18 AM

nope, Nascar will fade into oblivion.Nascar died with Earnhardt .Got too big for their britches.(hope nun of you fools bought Speedway stock, Ha,Ha,Ha) Winston pulling out soon is just the first domino. With common templates for all cars, it's just becoming a spec series. Motors will be next. CHEVY, the official motor of Nascar. THey will soon start hurtin' for cash and car counts that they'll let the Jap cars run. Cars will all be the same, with rotating sponsors, hords of Lemmings will buy t-shirts and junk for their favorite "manufactured super star" driver ,barely keeping the whole farce alive. Watch the coverage this Sunday, you'll see the begining of the end.

Ron61 · #3 (**permalink**) 02-15-2003, 06:59 AM

Mr Bruce,

I hate to agree with you as I have been a NASCAR fan for longer than I like to admit. But I thought about three years ago it was going to start going down. To expensive and to many rule changes. Also Unical that makes the Union 76 gas has announced that they will not supply gas to them next year. This was just a little three or four line paragraph on the NASCAR website about two weeks ago. Haven't heard it mentioned at all on TV. This high speed parade they call racing at Daytona is a farce and Dale Earnheart called it a joke and said it wasn't racing at all. I have alwyas preferred road racing as at least the cars don't have to be exactly the same and the set up and driver are still important.

Ron

bmalone · #4 (**permalink**) 02-15-2003, 08:15 AM

Roger, I'd love to have a vintage NASCAR racer. Maybe one of David Pearson's '67 tunnel-ports. Why? For nostalgia's sake and back then they were really "stock cars". Couldn't have been easy to drive.

Mr Bruce and Ron, it does at times seem NASCAR is run by amateurs--some decuisions and rule changes are silly. And I have noticed the departure of Winston (but you could see that coming--tobacco) and 76, but one thing I don't see changing is the number of fans in the seats. If you have a fan base like that, its pretty hard to screw things up that badly.

BTW-- Gentlemen, start your Engines. Daytona 500 is Sunday.

RACER X #99 · #5 (**permalink**) 02-15-2003, 08:43 AM

Hate to disagree guys , but Nascar will be around for a while. If you throwout the four fan attracting restrictor plate races, Nascar still put out the most competitive races on the planet. Do you guys really want to see F1 style races with the same team winning most of the races and the second place finisher way behind.
The France family did not become Billionaires because they were stupid. They know how to attract fans and keep them. You think it's an accident they run two road races a year. Packing 150K people in a 1/2 mile track at Bristol is brilliant. They provide what the fans want and will continue for a long time.

Besides you guys all missed my point anyway.

Cranky

computerworks · #6 (**permalink**) 02-15-2003, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RACER X #99

Can you imagine in 20-30 years a website called Club Nascar with maybe 6000 members?

Two problems...in 20-30 years, websites will be things of the past...replaced by a far more advanced technology.

also...in 20-30 years, there will be no gasoline left.

Excaliber · #7 (**permalink**) 02-15-2003, 08:49 AM

Winston pulling out will have a HUGE impact! With the TV contract NASCAR has and the current momentum of it's fan base they will have more than one sponsor lining up to get a piece of the action.

What is it,,,4 road races a year? Not enough!!! I heard rumors they are trying to improve on that number. I think they will be around for a LONG time to come. But like any business will continue to go through changes and evolve.

Ernie

Only 2 road races a year? Heck I thought I MUST have missed a couple of them, lol.

Ron61 · #8 (**permalink**) 02-15-2003, 02:02 PM

Bill & Cranky,

I hope that you are both right. I have been a NASCAR fan for as long as I can remember. My favorite racing has always been road racing but I love the short tracks too. I do not like the restrictor plate racing. I just got through watching the Busch race and Jr. won and had a great car. But no one can get out of line and he got into first place in the pits and then no one could pass him. Harvick led the first half as Jr. couldn't pull out to pass him. I hope that NASCAR can pick up another major sponsor soon.

Ron

bmalone · #9 (**permalink**) 02-15-2003, 06:42 PM

Well Ron, I am a huge fan also, much top the chagrin of my wife and others.

Seriously, every year after football is over and before NASCAR begins, I go through withdrawls until Daytona--let the racing begin.