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09-03-2010, 11:24 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: West Bend,WI,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Holliday Motorsport/396 GM / 4 speed / Jag rearend
Posts: 272
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Glad your OK.
When I bought my car i noticed that the steering shaft was 2 pipes - 1 inside the other with some questionable welds holding everything together. When I rebuilt the car last year the top thing on the list was to fit a new column in it. I got it from IDIDIT and they custom made it for me. Not only is it easier to steer (no power steering) but way safer than anything i could have built. Good luck and for goodness sake do it the SAFE WAY not the cheap or in your case the cool looking way. Safe is cool!!!!
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09-03-2010, 11:29 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: St. Louis,
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How many of you have checked your steering since reading this? I know I will tonight.
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09-03-2010, 12:58 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wayland MA,
MA
Cobra Make, Engine: 289 ERA #2115 under build in my bedroom
Posts: 101
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You are thoughtful for posting this. Thank you.
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09-03-2010, 01:02 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Fontana,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Lonestar LS427, 408w, 48IDA Webers, TKO 600, 9" Currie 4-link 4.11 rear
Posts: 390
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This is not an uncommon story, it is uncommon that someone admits to it or is in good enough condition to use their computer to type anything. I heard of this happening too many times, people crashing into a tree and the driver is fatally wounded. It feels like I have heard this a 100 times, which in all honesty is probably more like 2 or 3 times.
My procedure is as follows, which I do not practice religously.
When I get home from a drive a pull the hood pins, lift up the hood and look for leaks and steering movement. I have anti-sabotage markings on my steering joints, steering lock-nuts and upper contol-arm bolts and adjustable nuts. It takes a few seconds to look at it like this with a flash light. I wait for the car to cool off then cover it.
I repeat this procedure (or try to) each time I drive it. How many control arm stories and steering joint stories have you heard? How many end with a reasonably happy ending like this?
There is no half-a$$ing steering and suspension components, lock-tight, nylock nuts, torque, great hardware and good manuafcturing has to be invested in and even then, mistakes happen. There is a LOT of vibration in these cars, which is why they need constant inspection.
I am glad the driver is all right and they are good enough to put this thread on this web forum. This thread has the potential of saving lives - not the typical BS that just catches our interest.
Indeed, how many will check our steering tonight? (and our suspension).
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09-03-2010, 02:03 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Farmers Branch,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shell Valley, 302 with NOS
Posts: 55
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Suspect you were hoping those two 4's would give you some lift. Better the boat yard than the bone yard. Ya know Jon I find my best passenger is a box of Depends. Col
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09-03-2010, 04:23 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Marlboro,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Cobra
Posts: 921
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more thoughts
Two weeks ago my local gas station allowed me to use his lift, I was having a problem with bolts coming loose and wanted to take them out and put loctite on all of them which took a couple hours. One of our members made a great suggestion to mark all the bolts and nuts with a sharpie so at a glance you could see if they were coming loose...great idea... thanks Joe
Drove the car today, still running great...just need a pair of bj/bk carbs, can't get rid of the bog on these 450's !
Jon
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09-03-2010, 05:38 PM
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Quote:
...the bog on these 450's
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Piece of cake. You need:
1. Bigger main jets, duals don't like to run anywhere near lean or even normal. They like rich. You might consider the power valves as well, they should be at least 1/2 of whatever your idle vacuum reading is. Idles at 12"? 6" PV's or even 5's.
2. Bump up the base timing, very common to not run enough. Should be at least 14, I'm running 20.
3. More cowbell, oh wait, that was another thread...
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09-05-2010, 12:20 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Jacksonville,
FL
Cobra Make, Engine: VSE alum. frame, FFR carbonfiber body (under construction)
Posts: 293
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Another resource for steering components:
http://www.borgeson.com/xcart/home.php
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09-05-2010, 02:31 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Cobra Make, Engine: Unique Motorcars 289 USRRC, 1964 289 stroked to 331, toploader
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Thank God for Guardian Angels! Glad you are OK, with only minor damage to your ride...
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09-06-2010, 07:52 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mechanicsburg,
PA
Cobra Make, Engine: Everett-Morrison, 429CI
Posts: 98
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Jon.....thanks for posting your experiance. There is never any shame in stepping out of your comfort zone and then having to live the challenges doing that presents. The shame belongs to those reading your post and never having the cajones to live their dream.
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07-23-2011, 02:57 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Williamsport,
PA
Cobra Make, Engine: Kellison Stallion 468 FE
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resurrecting this thread for jon..........so he may post his latest experience today.
i'll let him tell the story........ok jon take a deep breath......don't let out any details
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07-23-2011, 03:26 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Zachary,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Hunter - 427
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Update
I certainly hope it's just another scare. Is the car and most important Jon OK?
Joey
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07-23-2011, 08:25 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Holderness, NH, US of A,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4772 old iron FE
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Steering joints should be either Double D or splined. Either method uses a groove or an indent to lock the screw against the shaft. The screw should be tight and have a jam or lock nut. Before making anything for brakes or steering read up on and look at what other people are doing and have it clear in your head why and how before you make anything. I heard of one idiot who used a socket set universal in his steering, right before he crashed the car. That kind of stuff shuts our hobby down! Just don't do it!
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07-23-2011, 08:53 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Perrysburg,
OH
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #298 427 FI
Posts: 497
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Did you get video because I laughed my butt off at the video on here of the drag racer who lost his steering wheel Seriously glad you are ok, i had the same thing happen to me but not in my cobra and not at those speeds.
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07-24-2011, 07:14 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Rockland County,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: West Coast Cobra/427
Posts: 853
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Jesus Mary Joseph!!!! I am glad you walked out of this one literally unscathed!!!
Basque1
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09-24-2011, 12:54 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Kimberley,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadsters, 429
Posts: 27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by decapello
How many of you have checked your steering since reading this? I know I will tonight.
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I'll be doing that first thing in the morn,.....checking my steering. I know what I got there but after reading that , it's a good thing to check it over.
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09-24-2011, 05:50 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Goshen,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Gary Edwards Racing 460
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FWB
resurrecting this thread for jon..........so he may post his latest experience today.
i'll let him tell the story........ok jon take a deep breath......don't let out any details
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the subject line says it all. HE predicted the next one...
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09-24-2011, 06:17 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
SC
Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Originally Posted by FWB
resurrecting this thread for jon..........so he may post his latest experience today.
i'll let him tell the story........ok jon take a deep breath......don't let out any details
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Da Bunnies (tm) know but signed a nondisclosure agreement
Bill S.
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09-24-2011, 06:26 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ,
AZ
Cobra Make, Engine: Arps/Burroughs/Hurricane/428FE
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Sounds kind of scary, your very lucky indeed. I would suggest installing good quality U-joints, a collapsable sterring shaft, plenty of loctite and a routine inspect schelule. Sterring , brakes and electrical are the most important systems....HP comes next.
Good Luck!
Bill
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09-24-2011, 06:56 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Marlboro,
NJ
Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Cobra
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New thread
I started a new thread "second chance" ...I'm replacing the body and have a chance to build it again and hopefully better. I posed the question that if you could redo your car knowing it's good points and it's bad what would you change?
Jon
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