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Manifold on 351w in A&C
What manifold are guys using on your 351w. I was thinking of using the Edelbrock Air Gap . I was concerned with the hood scoop clearance.
Ron |
I hope not, because that's what I got and I'm install the engine this weekend!
:eek: Jim |
Victor JR, and it will hit the hood if I don't use the Roush oval air cleaner that fits inside the scoop. Using a standard round air cleanr does not fit well.
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Edelbrock Performer or RPM will fit fine. I use the old Hellings and Stellings air cleaner. Not much more room under there.
Roscoe |
Jim how does the clearence look with the air gap?
Ron |
I took some measurements and it's tight but I think it will clear with the right aircleaner element combination.. To the very top of the air pipes on my carb I have 22.5", using a thin gasket and no spacer. from the bottom side of the body mounting area (With no mounting pad) to the underside of the hood in the scoop I get 25"... So I have 2.5" to spare. I suspect a cobra filter will not clear with out some modifaction due to it's length...
Jim |
Thanks
Did you use the short or tall motor mounts? Might have to give up on some oil pan clearence. I am thinking I should have bought the short. :( http://www.mustangsunlimited.com/ite...asp?T1=2287+01 http://www.mustangsunlimited.com/ite...asp?T1=2286+01 Ron |
Good question, actually I don't know unless someone can tell me what the differnce in height is. I'm running Prothane mounts I got through Summit.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku I can tell you with my moroso pan it's barely below the frame. The bell housing is lower. I'll try and take some picture and try and get them posted tonight.. |
Ok I measured my motor mounts at 3" vertical height. There a photo of it in my gallary. Is that a high or low mount?
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http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...motormount.jpg
This is a tall 351 mount the bottom of the caliper is in the top of the hole 3 1/4". Not sure what the short is. Looks shorter on the mustangunlimited web site. Ron |
Here's a couple of shots of my mounts. Don't know if they are short or tall.
http://www.priveye.com/cobra/Mount4.jpg http://www.priveye.com/cobra/Mount3.jpg Roscoe |
Hi Ron, I'll try and make the same measurement tonight. I checked Eldbrock website and the difference in height is 1 1/8, between the RPM and Air Gap..
Roscoe, can you do us a favor? When you look in through the scoop how much clearance is there between the top of air cleaner and the underside of the hood? Thanks, Jim |
Using the Edelbrock Performer manifold, 1" spacer, Speed Demon and Hellings and Snellings air cleaner there is about 1/2" of space between the top of the air cleaner and the inside of the hood.
Roscoe |
Hi Roscoe, thanks for looking! That at least sounds promising. Without the spacer I should be able to get the close to same clearance without the carb spacer you have.
Ron, I measured my mount hte same way you did and it is high mount. Now we just to figure out how much we would save using a low one.. Thanks, Jim |
You may get the clearance but you won't get the performance. I picked up several valuable hp by putting in the spacer.
Roscoe |
RDC
Do you have the A & C Tall hood made for 460 users or the older short hood scoop. I know Roscoe has the older shorter Hood scoop made before the mold change A & C did around 2002. Just an FYI. Jim |
Hey more good news. I had no idea A&C had changed the hood!
Thanks, Jim |
Wow I need to check. I got my kit last August so.......... I had my heart set on the air gap. hey maybe now a Victor Jr .......
Thanks JIM ???????????????????? http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/data/42/100_1726.JPG Roscoe's http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...356Latest2.JPG |
So....ah....er.....my hood is a collectors item?
Roscoe |
On the CR w/ 351W, I have the Edelbrock Performer, Holly carb. The air cleaner is a base plate with , 2 1/4" high, 9" round K & N element.
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