New toy - Page 5

tin-man · #81 (**permalink**) 09-09-2011, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Car Nut

My BS meter just broke.

Mikie, good luck on your "challenge".

Was it something I said?

I guess you are not seeing the big picture here Car Nut, all the high drama rhetoric and talk is to get Mikie all fired up and to accept the challenge with his new toy and I am willing to pay US$100 to see him do this. Put another way, I for one, am enjoying the conversation and when was the last time anyone offered to pay you a hundred bucks to see how well you shoot?

I am putting my money where my mouth is since I have no doubt Mikie will be able to pull this off and being the case we all have some fun in the process.Thus I have accomplished what I set out to do, create some excitement.

Now if that's BS and caused you meter to break, y'all need to get it recalibrated.

No harm no foul, Car Nut, its all in good fun.

Next?

tin-man

csx4910 · #82 (**permalink**) 09-09-2011, 09:15 PM

I'll match your bet of $100 you can't make the same shot with the same gun as Mickiec

tin-man · #83 (**permalink**) 09-10-2011, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by csx4910

I'll match your bet of $100 you can't make the same shot with the same gun as Mickiec

Ron, that's not the point here, its all about Mikie and his new toy. I am not sure my objective has sunk home, its all about getting Mikie jazzed up and taking the shot and us all having some fun in the process. A two inch target at 50 yards should be doable after several practice rounds. I have never shot a Henry but it looks like a fun piece. I would prefer to use my Ruger 22 Bullnose.

When I return to the States for good I will take it out for some practice rounds and see how well I do under the same conditions. I invite you to be there at the time. Cheers, tin-man

csx4910 · #84 (**permalink**) 09-10-2011, 05:58 PM

Just giving Mickiec my vote of confidence. I have a lot less experienced that you aging"gentleman" that were around when the Colt Single action army was introduced, but I am getting better at 25-30 yards with my S&W .44 magnum. I am curious as what is considered the accurate range for that piece.

Bob Broberg SPF667 460BB · #85 (**permalink**) 09-10-2011, 08:21 PM

Ron, Car Nut is the expert in the .44 mag category. He's got lots of them and a long history in loading and competition. It seems he likes Ruger best but he would know the answer to your query. I have your gun and it is very accurate to 25 yards (for a handgun) but I would want a long gun for farther.

AZ Bob

csx4910 · #86 (**permalink**) 09-10-2011, 10:52 PM

Car Nut, What say you? I put 4/6 today in the target at 20 yards and 3/6 in a 4 inch target at 25 yards today but dont know if that is no big deal with that gun or not(easy with my .45 Spingfield but has proven a bit tougher learning to shoot the .44)

Any pointers would be appreciated, Also thinking of switching the rubber hogue grips to wood? yay or nay in terms of which is better to shoot with?

Car Nut · #87 (**permalink**) 09-11-2011, 06:38 AM

Ron,

I'll try to answer your questions as best I can because you asked. Just remember, different people have different opinions and no one is absolutely correct. You will have to experiment to see what works for you. So here goes.

.44 mags are used a lot in silouette shooting and can be very accurate. I've heard of 3 inch groups at 100 yards but that is a scoped gun.

I have a .44 Ruger Super Redhawk with a 16 inch premium Douglas barrel that shoots real nice. It certainly is capable of 2 inch groups at 50 yards with the right ammo. You also have to be able to see what you're shooting so a sight that you can see and line up your target to are important. As far as open sights are concerned, I like my old shiney small bead sight with a matching V notch rear. The idea is to be able to repeat that sight alignment exactly the same each time you fire and you might like something else (most people do LOL)

The right ammo needs to be consistantly loaded to get real repeatable results and some ammo works better in certain pistols. Most shooters handload and do a lot of testing at the range to come up with a preferred load for their pistol.

Cheap ammo usually has more inconsistancies in the powder charge, the crimp and the length. These inconsistances can add up to where your group has a larger spread and even a flyer here and there.

Dropping a round out of the group is more of a shooter thing, inconsistant sight picture, inconsistant grip, and developing a flinch when shooting. My favorite test for flinching is to have someone else load less than 6 and you shoot through, when the hammer hits an empty, you'll know what is happening. You can also practice with short loadings to get rid of your flinch.

I shooting off hand, double action. It seems for me, I can pull the trigger to hammer back, hold, then squeeze off the round. I get less anticipation and can shoot better. Other people like to manually cock it and squeeze.

It just takes practice, practice, practive. Work on your stance, consistantcy and your flinch. Shooting is a mental game mostly. There are days when I can't hit the broadside of a barn when my mind ain't right and some days when the fly on the bull is deadman walking. If you want to devote a lot of time to it, you can get those groups a lot smaller with fewer flyers.

Oh, about the grips. I think it more important to find a set of grips the fit your hand. I love the Ruger post in grips on the Super Redhawk. My 454 Cassul (sp) is a SRH with the post in grip design and is very comfortable to shoot off hand. That aside, rubber grips will likely allow you to hold onto your firearm better especially if you don't wear shooting gloves. Most of the Hogue grips I've had are too big for my hand and I have gone back to wood grips.

There are several AZ CC members that shoot and may have some other good advice for you.

Ducking for cover now.

csx4910 · #88 (**permalink**) 09-11-2011, 07:16 AM

I didn't realize how much more I have to learn before I can even practice correctly. Wow! That you for the information and I will start trying some of those things. Mine only has the 6 inch barrel and I havent got to the point of loading my own but have been thinking about it. The hogue grips fit fairly well in my hand but never shooting one of these before, just trying to figure out what I don't know about these to iron out the misses. 50 yards with that grouping is impressive. Thanks for the advice
Ron

Car Nut · #89 (**permalink**) 09-11-2011, 07:26 AM

You're welcome. I hope it helps.

mikiec · #90 (**permalink**) 09-11-2011, 07:31 PM

Ginny nailed a plastic bottle from about 30 yards with the Henry. Maybe I'll let her shoot in the challange. LOL.

Mike

mikiec · #91 (**permalink**) 09-12-2011, 11:17 AM

Powder recommendations for the 45 ACP and the 45Colt? I have a pound of HP38

Mike

Danr55 · #92 (**permalink**) 09-12-2011, 12:13 PM

I'll check the red book when I get home and let you know. What bullet and primer are you using?

dave from mesa · #93 (**permalink**) 09-12-2011, 01:34 PM

Check the Hodgon website

Danr55 · #94 (**permalink**) 09-12-2011, 04:43 PM

I show the H110 has given me the best luck with 45LC using heavy bullets. W 748 was second best.

mikiec · #95 (**permalink**) 09-12-2011, 06:10 PM

Remington large pistol for now 185 JHP 45ACP
Dave, I have the data for this powder. I'm looking for other ideas.

I'll worry about the 45Colt later on.

Mike

Danr55 · #96 (**permalink**) 09-13-2011, 06:13 AM

All of my data for ACP uses Federal primers, but the powders are HS 6 and W 231. The Winchester powder at mid load showed best performance and accuracy with the 185 Nosler bullets. HS 6 worked best for cast bullets.