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I'm sure that there are more than just conservatives who would like to see the last 6 or 7 years redone. Barack Obama is a liar and a cheat and a fraud. His leaings toward Shia are obvious. He craps on Sunni's and elevates Shia's. Just look at his record. He sould be arrested and tried for treason, malfeasance of office and fraud. He swore to "uphold, protect and defect the Constitution of the United States", and he's done nothing except try to replace it with his idea of what this country should be. His aim is to subjugate the American people and replace the Constitution with Sharia. Anyone with any brains and any insite and the ability to look beyond the end of his/her nose would see that. Just in case there are any questions about how I feel about him, I don't like nor trust him.
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I got Teddy Roosevelt first, Ronald Reagan second.
Odd that it picked a liberal first and a conservative second. The question about the Hay-Pauncefote Treaty must have swayed it.
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his aim is to subjugate the american people and replace the constitution with sharia.
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I'm sure that there are more than just conservatives who would like to see the last 6 or 7 years redone. Barack Obama is a liar and a cheat and a fraud. His leaings toward Shia are obvious. He craps on Sunni's and elevates Shia's. Just look at his record. He sould be arrested and tried for treason, malfeasance of office and fraud. He swore to "uphold, protect and defect the Constitution of the United States", and he's done nothing except try to replace it with his idea of what this country should be. His aim is to subjugate the American people and replace the Constitution with Sharia. Anyone with any brains and any insite and the ability to look beyond the end of his/her nose would see that. Just in case there are any questions about how I feel about him, I don't like nor trust him.
While we're all entitled to our own opinions, it appears many don't share your view of view of the current President, particularly when compared to his peers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor..._United_States
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You want substantiation of my statement? Read his books.
I've read them all. Please tell me which pages must have been stuck together in my copy. This should be an exceedingly easy task for you. If it's true, that is.
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I'm sure that there are more than just conservatives who would like to see the last 6 or 7 years redone. Barack Obama is a liar and a cheat and a fraud. His leaings toward Shia are obvious. He craps on Sunni's and elevates Shia's. Just look at his record. He sould be arrested and tried for treason, malfeasance of office and fraud. He swore to "uphold, protect and defect the Constitution of the United States", and he's done nothing except try to replace it with his idea of what this country should be. His aim is to subjugate the American people and replace the Constitution with Sharia. Anyone with any brains and any insite and the ability to look beyond the end of his/her nose would see that. Just in case there are any questions about how I feel about him, I don't like nor trust him.
I hope for your sake you're kidding I'm not a big Obama fan, but if you actually believe that drivel you wrote, you're either seriously delusional or heavily into the moonshine. (kinda...)
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I've read them all. Please tell me which pages must have been stuck together in my copy. This should be an exceedingly easy task for you. If it's true, that is.
I'm going to let you off the hook. You won't back up your claims because you can't; the evidence just doesn't exist. I'll just attribute your outburst to Scared Old White Man syndrome and hope that evidence-based pragmatism finds you in your laters years.

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I'm sure that there are more than just conservatives who would like to see the last 6 or 7 years redone. Barack Obama is a liar and a cheat and a fraud. His leaings toward Shia are obvious. He craps on Sunni's and elevates Shia's. Just look at his record. He sould be arrested and tried for treason, malfeasance of office and fraud. He swore to "uphold, protect and defect the Constitution of the United States", and he's done nothing except try to replace it with his idea of what this country should be. His aim is to subjugate the American people and replace the Constitution with Sharia. Anyone with any brains and any insite and the ability to look beyond the end of his/her nose would see that. Just in case there are any questions about how I feel about him, I don't like nor trust him.
People like Danr55, and Santorum, Pailn, Cruz, Huckabee, etc. are the reason that I no longer call myself a Republican. I've been an independent since the 2000s when the mainstream Republican party started to... get a little kooky.

I believe in market solutions and I believe in common sense realities and the necessity to defend ourselves against a dangerous world. 20 years ago that would have made a me a Republican.

The problem is that now to be a Republican I also have to be homophobic. I have to count the number of times people go to church. I have to deny facts and think scientific research is a long con. I have to think poor people are getting a sweet ride. And I have to have such a stunning inferiority complex that I fear education and intellect in the 21st Century. Most of all, the biggest new requirement-–the only requirement-–is that I have to hate Democrats.
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I pulled 3 random things off that site and all are false on snopes. We can assume the majority of them are just bs also.

Gave me a good laugh though!
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Bernie Sanders for me Hillary,a distant second.No surprise here being a life long New England liberal Like my choice of cars,an ERA presently and a FF5.. Daytona Coupe in my future. Always like the home grown products,CT and MA produced cars.
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Bernie Sanders for me Hillary,a distant second.
Doesn't Sanders say he's a socialist?
Why in America would you or I want a socialist to run our country.
What I'm I missing? (on this topic only please)
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I am pretty sure I am conservative. That said the last debate in my mind was so rigged in favor of Jeb Boy, Walker and Rubio (Kennedy). Soft ball questions to these guys and anti questions to Trump Boy and Cruz. The star in my mind was the the Early Lady and of course Carson. Wouldn't that be something to see. The Smart Business Lady and the Very Smart Surgeon. What a ticket.!!

Don't think we would see much change going forward with most Republicans but The Lady, the Surgeon and the Cruz would turn the car at least 90 maybe 180 degrees to the right which would be back to the center.

Clinton and OB should be in impeached. Just destroyed this country. Jeb is just more big government. More of the dam same.

Strong Military, must less race baiting and watch what everyone does not what they say. No on the Iranian deal but you know these weak pusses in both houses are going to pass it. They all need to go again!?������
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50 Things Barack Obama Has Done Wrong - John Hawkins - Page full

10 Ways Obama Has Failed as President

The President Who Has Done the Most Damage | National Review Online

President Obama's Broken Promises - Discover the Networks
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The problem with Obama is that his IQ is a good bit higher than the average politician. That clown Trump has at least one thing right, on the whole our congress is made up of idiots. When a "black man" as educated as Obama is, can articulate thoughts as only Obama can, in a vocabulary his constituents wish they had, then you know all hell is going to break lose. What was he thinking, use facts and not politically spun lies to implement positive change? - that's just plain wrong. Sure doesn't sit well with the ignorant "white man's view" of the world does it. What we really have are closet bigots hell bent on stopping progress when the idea comes from a black man. When all is said and done, Obama will go down in history as making tough landmark decisions that advanced mankind in spite of the most dysfunctional congress this country has ever known.

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Hey Joe, What about the Iran Nuclear Treaty has Obama said that is right for America or right for the world? Didn't Obama say, "If it gets ugly, I'll stand with Islam"? Well, if something isn't done to preclude the Iran Nuclear Treaty from coming to fruition, it will get very ugly. Obama in history will be shown for exactly what he is....and that has nothing to do with advancing any cause except that of the muslim brotherhood who he has managed to infiltrate into every crevice, crack and cranny of our society.. I will admit he is articulate and well spoken.. now if he would only tell the truth... !
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Look at his record in Iraq. He pulled the US Military out without any agreement to support the predominately Sunni Government. He has sided against the predominately Sunni Saudi Government. When Egypt dumped the Muslim Brotherhood he turned his back and began courting Iran, who in case you didn't notice is Shiite...(to the point of executing as heritics many Bahai and no mulsimw..especially Christian Armenians among whom I had many friends.) He backed Assad and Hezbolah and crapped on Israel (who again, if you haven't noticed is the only democracy in that part of the world and has always support every president until Obummer.._) Now you can poo poo this all you want, and you can stick your head in the sand and pretend it isn't so. ...but having spent many many years living in that part of the world, I can tell you for a fact, that is so.. and if you didn't pick up on any of his declarations in any of his books, then explaining it to you by quoting chapter and verse will only serve to confuse you... There endith the lesson.. Nope.. one more thing.. I am not necessairily a Republican. I am first and foremost an American, a veteran and well educated. I will vote for and support whomever lends themselve to the best ideals of and support for the US Constitution. This document is the only thing that stands now as it has for generations as the pillar of individual freedom and national security. I took an oath once upon a time to protect and defend agaisnt all enemies foriegn and domestic. Just because my tour is over, I do not consider myself released from that oath. I will still stand and defend if necessary....and if you look around, you will find that that attitude is starting to show up in lots of people who recognize the threats for who and what they are and from whence they come.
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Some interesting information about the above-mentioned candidates, from Politifacts' Truth-O-Meter, in no particular order:
Donald Trump: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
Marco Rubio: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/marco-rubio/
Ben Carson: Ben Carson's file | PolitiFact
Hillary Clinton: Hillary Clinton's file | PolitiFact
Bernie Sanders: Bernie Sanders's file | PolitiFact
Jeb Bush: Jeb Bush's file | PolitiFact Florida
Rick Santorum: Rick Santorum's file | PolitiFact
Scott Walker: Scott Walker's file | PolitiFact Wisconsin
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"Pew [Research] discovered that conservatives are consuming a right-wing media full of lies and misinformation, whereas liberals are more interested in media that puts facts before ideology. It’s very much not a “both sides do it” situation. Conservatives are becoming more conservative because of propaganda, whereas liberals are becoming more liberal while staying very much checked into reality."

"The problem with this is watching Fox News actually makes you less informed than if you don't watch any news at all. In a 2012 study, Fox News viewers rated the absolute lowest in ability to correctly answer questions on a quiz about recent news events. People who didn’t take in any news programs at all did better on the quizzes."

Source: Why Conservatives Opt for Propaganda Over Reality | Alternet

Worth reading, but only for those with an open mind.
Again, this is total garbage. As a rule, I've observed Canadians I've talked with about US politics, are very liberal - they have been fed a steady diet of US liberal propaganda. Ask a Canadian about "all the Americans that have guns" & you'll see what I'm talking about.
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