Looking For An Ffr Owner

NOSMS · #1 (**permalink**) 06-01-2006, 09:15 AM

Hello,

My name is Mike Kenney, and I am the owner of New Old Stock Motorsports. I have been away from the reproduction and race car industry for awhile, however I have been pulled back into it by some old customers. We have been talking about making parts for Cobras again and would like to work with a FFR owner on some new ideas we have come up with. We are looking for a car in the building stages, (but could use a completed car) as we would need to have some of the suspension off the car for a few weeks. If you are interested please email me at mknos@att.net or call 602-400-7725. If you would like an independent reference, drop Scott Coyle a line. We just upgraded the rear suspension of his Hi-Tech Racer with parts of the caliber we are designing for the FFR.

Thank you all for your time,

Mike

mikiec · #2 (**permalink**) 06-01-2006, 10:27 AM

Mike...

I'll check around for you.

Hey, Guys.. If you are building, take Mike up on his offer. He is one of the good guys.

Mike

NOSMS · #3 (**permalink**) 06-01-2006, 12:57 PM

Mike,

Thanks for the support.

To answer some of the questions I have already gotten. We are working on a complete adjustable billet suspension for the FFR platform.

Thanks again,

Mike

John-Tucson · #4 (**permalink**) 06-01-2006, 11:33 PM

Mike are you looking for a "mule" car ? I will be in Mass. and Oh. during June but after that my FFR will be available. Give me a call, #520-825-9197 John

mikiec · #5 (**permalink**) 06-03-2006, 05:22 PM

What FFR??????

I thought you sold it.

Mike

NOSMS · #6 (**permalink**) 06-03-2006, 07:28 PM

Yes were are looking for a mule but I think we have a interested owner. His car is completed so we are still interest in also finding a car the is in the build process. Both would be great. I will be out of town this coming week so computer access will be limited. You can call at 602-400-7725.

Thanks to all of you for the support

Mike

NOS Motorsports

LMH · #7 (**permalink**) 06-03-2006, 09:16 PM

Mikie
John bought a new new FFR which he showed off last monday.
The new one is silver, 302 and AOD trans. I'm sure you remember the old one ...silver, 302 and AOD.

Larry

54h · #8 (**permalink**) 06-12-2006, 12:57 PM

Mike,
Are you going to be building any FFR Spec Racing parts?
Let me know.
Thanks,

Dean.......54h

NOSMS · #9 (**permalink**) 06-13-2006, 06:26 PM

We looked at a car today and have some ideas brewing. I have to take off for Chicago in the mourning, so it will be a week before I get back on this project. What we are planning is a completely adjustable supension made of all billet parts. We plan to work up a set, off of stock FFR parts and then look to what inporvements might be made. I have gotten alot of feed back and will be spending more time on this over the next weeks(months) as we develop the parts. If you have interest in these types of part please feel free to drop me a line. I would like to know how much interest there is (so far it seems there is alot) for these parts.

Thanks for everyones input,

Mike

mknos@att.net
602-400-7725

Larry N Johnson · #10 (**permalink**) 06-26-2006, 12:54 PM

Other than lighter weight and appearance, what advantage would "completely adjustable supension made of all billet parts" have? The front upper arms on an FFR are adjustable already. Can you shed some light?

Now, if you had IRS adjustable arms....

NOSMS · #11 (**permalink**) 06-27-2006, 10:43 AM

Lighter weight can be a benefit, we are not close enough to a finished product to know exactly how much of a weight savings we may get. As for looks, these parts should definitely have WOW factor. The biggest advantage will be strength and durability. Tubular arms can be made to be very light but run the risk of becoming to flexible. We have also had issues with weld fatigue and cracking with tubular arms. Let me make sure to say, I have not seen any problems with any FFR parts.

Many of you may know Scott Coyle and his 427 Hi-Tech. The rear uprights on Hi-Techs were made of a machined bearing carrier and sheet metal box construction. This was done not just for weight, but to save on up front tooling for cast or forged parts. To date I only know of two cars that have had issues Scott's and another AZ Hi-tech owner, which has a heavily modified race only car. Both of these cars have had failures of both uprights (luckily not catastrophic failures). This brings me to the conclusion that it is design and not process or production issues that caused the failures. Both cars had their uprights repaired and additional gussets were added to strengthen the parts for their race application. Scott's failed a second time. In order to fix the problem we 3D machined new parts from 6061T-6 the parts are a little lighter, a whole lot sexier, and if Scott breaks one the end of the world has arrived. I would like to say that the Hi-Tech's or other car's with similar parts are not flawed. The part need to built for the use.

True race cars don't run stock anything in most cases. What killed the Hi-Tech parts in my opinion was the brakes. If you welded a bracket on the side of a beer can, the force of the brakes would rip the tab straight away. So you increase the thickness of the can. Under normal use if the can is thick enough then the parts holds up for it's useful life. Increase use or increase forces (bigger brakes) and useful life decreases. In racing, aircraft and almost ever other area of manufacturing it is about balancing the design, application, and cost. Then inspected and replacing before failure.

Our goal is to create products which enhance the the original car, in this case the FFR or reproductions with similar suspension set ups. Our parts will most likely cost a little bit more, so we see our market, as racers or customers building new cars who want the WOW factor. I am sure we will have some customers with completed cars who will replace parts for one reason or another. The best thing about it is we are doing this to make cool parts, have fun, and make new friends, not to make a million dollars. We just need to make enough to pay for our habit/hobby, playing with cool cars.

Thanks for your interest.

Mike

Larry N Johnson · #12 (**permalink**) 06-27-2006, 10:49 AM

Dear Mike,

Thank you for the complete answer!!

Larry

mikiec · #13 (**permalink**) 06-27-2006, 11:28 AM

Larry...

The next time you are in town, we can take a drive to Mike's shop. As I said before... He is one of the good guys.

Mike

NOSMS · #14 (**permalink**) 06-27-2006, 02:01 PM

Sorry if I was long winded we are just very excited to be working on these cars again. Mike I'll bring a sample of the parts up this weekend so you can get a idea of the quality of the parts we are building these days.

Thanks,

Mike

NOSMS · #15 (**permalink**) 08-03-2006, 02:24 PM

Well, it took longer than expected (but what doesn't)

. I am going to attach a photo. and after a few more days of testing and fitting we will have info and prices. Thanks to everyone for the help and interest in this project.

Mike

Maricopa · #16 (**permalink**) 08-03-2006, 02:30 PM

Hey Mike, I can't see the photo. Did you find another frame to fit them up to or do you still need mine?

NOSMS · #17 (**permalink**) 08-03-2006, 03:04 PM

Try the link now had some problem with it at first. If you check out the gallery on the link you can see the 427 original uprights we made. Yes we would like to hook up to do a final fit. Give me a call when you can 602-400-7725.

Thanks again.

Mike

Maricopa · #18 (**permalink**) 08-03-2006, 03:25 PM

Ooooooohhh....

I'll give you a call.

NOSMS · #19 (**permalink**) 08-04-2006, 11:23 AM

I wanted to post and answer some of the questions we have been getting.
The part in the photo is the first article but we are very pleased with how it turned out I don't foresee any changes for production. We will be doing our final fit up next week and then will start production most likely one to three weeks for delivery. I hope to have pricing available no later than Friday of next week. As for technical specs the part came in at 4.5 pounds which as a little over a 1.5 pound savings or about 25%. I will post more details and photos next week.

Once again I would like to thank everyone for there help and interest with this product.

Mike Kenney

NOSMS · #20 (**permalink**) 08-21-2006, 07:48 AM

We got a chance to get over to Mike's and fit the arms last week, and they fit an looked great. We are making one minor change and then will start a production run of parts. So we can get some on cars and start to get some feed back. I will post some on car pics today.

Thanks for all the support,

Mike