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Old 03-23-2008, 05:36 PM
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Angry Comp Cams Bad Tech Support Blew my Engine

I have an early 70's 351w block. I wanted a hyd. roller cam for it and my engine builder recommended and insalled a "Retro Fit" hyd. roller cam form Comp Cams. He aslo specified the MSD distributor to install in the engine. After i picked up the long block, I went to install the distributor. It had a warning tag on the drive gear saying that the gear was made of cast iron and to call the Cam maker to make sure it was compatable with the cam. So like a good consumer, I called Comp Cams tech support to ask if the cast iron gear was compatable with the cam model I had. I was told no it wasn not and needed to be changed to a steel gear. So I had to order a steel gear for $80 and pay another $35 to have it installed on the distributor. The rest of the story you know. My new distributor drive gear shreaded the camshaft gear in 150 miles pushing metal throughout the entire engine. This meant an entire tear down and rebuild. When I called the engine builder to tell him about the cam shreading, he asked if the distributor gear was also damaged and it was not. It looked like new. So he asked if I changed the gear from the one that came on the distributor. I told him yes and why. He said they were absolutely incorrect as "Retro Fit" roller cams for early blocks use a cast iron or bronze gear. He said he specified the model of distributor because it already had the proper gear on it and that i should never have changed it therby voiding the warranty on the engine build. I wrote and called Comp Cams and they admit they gave me the advice to change the gear. They still give this advice. They insist that a steel gear is the proper one, but I have gotten many replies of others with the same story as mine and blown engines due to this incorrect information. I went back and forth with the management of Comp Cams bassically getting a " Well that is our opinion and your engine builder is wrong. So I offered this test. If we rebuilt the engine with exactly the same parts by the same person with the only difference being the distributor drive gear being changed to a cast iron gear to see if it would shread the cam again. We agreed that if the engine made it 1000 miles that would be a fair test. It is now at 1000 miles and Comp Cams answer after eight months is they will send me a new camshaft if i return the old one. Now eight months after i had already proved it was their bad tech support and after the engine has been back together for eight months is a bit absurd to offer me no recompense on the rebuild and a part I have no use for. We pulled the distributor at 450 miles and the cam is perfect and the distributor gear is also perfect, so I think I have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the steel gear was NOT compatable with their Retro Fit Cam. Yet they still continue to give out this advice to customers costing many others thousands of dollars and will not even take the time to do some testing to check out the issue. This to me shows a complete lack of consience and shows no interest in customer satisfaction. If any of you want any further information, feel free to e-mail me at mikeykap@comcast.net. If I was the only one this has happened to, I would not be as angry and upset, but this has happened to many many people and will continue to happen until someone stops Comp cams from giving out this incorrect information. Since the only way to get a corporation to listen these days is a lawsuit, this is the reason I suggested it. I doubt my asking for a boycott would afect them much, but a class action lawsuit, hopefully will stop them from continuing to give out this bad advice. It seems this issue only applies to their "Retro Fit" Hyd. Roller cams. Other roller cams do in fact use a steel gear. Well that is the summery of the story. I hope that clarifies that it was not the distributor gear that came apart, but the gear on the camshaft itself. As a side not, if i had not read the instructions and just installed the distributor as it was, i would not have had this problem.

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Seriously, I think you got your point across with the other 5 threads you made about this same exact topic. I'm not trying to be a d!ck or anyhting but if you have updated info from before, great! But you don't need to start a new thread everyday with the same rant! Pick one

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Old 03-23-2008, 08:20 PM
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I am just trying to get the word out so this does not happen to anyone else. How would you feel if i did not make the best effort to make the problem known and it cost you several thousand dollars. I think you would be much more angry that your engine got ruined then reading a few extra posts! I am making it my mission in life to get the word out to as many people as possible to try and stop Comp Cams from continuing to give out bad information. If it upsets a few of you that you have to read about it more then once "Oh Well" I would rather piss of a couple of people then see one more ruined engine happen to anyone else! I think most people would agree with that.
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I used a Comp retrofit hyrdaulic roller recently and replaced the cast iron dizzy gear with a brass one. That is what their info said to do.
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I'm not saying that it's not great that you are letting people know. What I'm saying is that there is no need for 5 threads about it. you said everything in this thread that you said in the other 3. Based on the instructions being wrong, I'd say you have a pretty good case for a lawsuit. If you have more to say about this topic, put it in one of the 4 already created with the same title. people can read the old threads just as well as the new ones.
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Bump!!!!!!
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Old 03-23-2008, 09:30 PM
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FFRCobraMike

...pick your favorite thread among the bunch that you've posted and we'll stick with that one.

You can't spam the site with multiple dupes.

Which one? All Cobra Talk? ..Consumer Watch?

Let me know by PM.

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Old 03-23-2008, 10:54 PM
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The most comprehensive thread is on the Bay area cobra Club page. But if you want to move it to all Cobra talk that is fine.

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