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06-27-2008, 07:56 PM
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Really strange!
I've had several occassions over the years where vehicles would not start. I now have a first. A car that won't shut off. I turn the key and the car keeps running. I pull the plug from the back of the ignition switch and the car keeps running. I'm presuming that there is a short in the inginition wiring somewhere. All I need to do is find it. WEIRD!
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06-27-2008, 09:12 PM
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Wow! Dan. By your subject title I thought you were describing yourself.LOL.
Check ignition switch. I am on my 3rd.
AZ Bob
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06-27-2008, 10:10 PM
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Bob, I pull the wiring away from the ignition switch and the car keeps running. There has to be a short in the wiring somewhere.
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Dan in Arizona
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"It's a great car and I love it, but it doesn't do 'SLOW' very well."
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06-27-2008, 10:28 PM
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If you have an MSD ignition box and a "charge light" on the dash, it is a well known problem.
Check out: http://www.msdignition.com/1troub1.htm
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06-27-2008, 10:31 PM
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Hey Dan,
I bet you have a 1 wire alternator system with a MSD ignition. Just the MSD will do it and they call it run on. A diode ($0.80) placed on the wire to the alt. will stop this problem and it is all explained on MSD web link. Call me if you have trouble finding it. Jeff C
BARNSNAKE beat me to it while I was 1 fingering it .
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06-28-2008, 07:07 AM
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I had the same issue a couple of years ago. After checking all of the above out, I found.......................a short under the dash!
Good luck!
Tim
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06-28-2008, 11:26 AM
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NO MSD box. No single wire alternator.. Standard ford dual points and old fashion voltage regulator. THat's why I think there is a short in the wiring.
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06-28-2008, 12:54 PM
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Dan,
If by any chance you are using the 60's style Ford starter relay with wires on both of the small post, that can cause this problem. The "second" wire which was brown was a 12volt ignition coil feed wire for 12 volts in the start position only. I have seen the relay fail to open this circuit when the ignition returns from the start position to run. Though not likely you problem, you can check this by removing the wire to see if the engine shuts off. Good luck---Ron
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06-28-2008, 02:54 PM
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06-28-2008, 03:37 PM
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Mikie, you're just full of good information. THank you. I happen to agree with you.
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06-28-2008, 04:34 PM
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06-28-2008, 04:44 PM
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06-28-2008, 08:38 PM
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Dan,
Have you checked the plug for the short? Was the plug hot?
Mike
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06-28-2008, 09:43 PM
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The same thing happened to me on my first fire-up. Pink had to yank the coil wire to get it to shut off. It's basically the alternator in a feedback loop keeping the juice going but it's been so long I can't remember what I had crossed up.
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06-29-2008, 09:35 AM
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Mikie, I haven't done that yet and it's a good idea. I'll try that this morning.
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06-29-2008, 10:38 AM
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Darn Dan,
You started this thread 3 days ago. You mean the car has been running all this time and you hadn't yanked the coil wire? 
There are some very good suggestions in the previous posts and one of them should be your problem. I had the opposite as I couldn't keep my car running for lack of gas money.
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06-29-2008, 11:55 AM
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The title of thei post, "Really Strange" with Danr55's name under it just goes together, don't you think?
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06-29-2008, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron61
Darn Dan,
You started this thread 3 days ago. You mean the car has been running all this time and you hadn't yanked the coil wire?
There are some very good suggestions in the previous posts and one of them should be your problem. I had the opposite as I couldn't keep my car running for lack of gas money.
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Ron, after I switched from cow's milk to Soy Milk, I have plenty of gas! 
Still no money but plenty of gas!
Ralph 
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06-29-2008, 11:49 PM
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Well, Ahren from Ultimate Automotive came over this afternoon and spent the better part of the afternoon and evening trying to figure out what was wrong. I'm not sure we ever figured it out, but he rewired it. The entire ignition system. It runs fine now. As usual, he did a good job.
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06-30-2008, 06:46 PM
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Dan,
You could get a job in the computer industry. I don't know what's wrong so I just reinstalled the OS.
MIke
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