^&*@%sucking thieves

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by stuart.in.leigh

Air rifles only here without license, single shot rifles and shotguns with a license and subject to Police check beforehand and a very good reason why you want one in the first place.
We have to rely on whacking the criminals over the head with a blunt instrument if the try breaking into our houses.

An unsharpened AXE is a blunt instrument, No?

Dan

[Trevor Legate]

Here in the UK, just showing a fake or replica gun in public can and will land you in jail. A few months back, a young lad flashed a BB target pistol in a public car park. He was caught on camera and a few hours later armed police sealed off our street and went in through the front door, without opening it, and hauled him outside, whacked him hard and threw him in jail. He can expect a custodial sentence! All highly efficient but if a burglary takes place in the same street, you can forget about calling the cops - they got far too much paperwork to get through.....sort it out yourself and get over it.
At last, there is talk of home owners being allowed to defend themselves, at long last. Seems if we so much as touch an intruder, we have violated his human rights and stopped him going about his daily business (according to our so-called government, serial criminals have a 'right' to carry out their work!!) For my part, I'd cause him as much serious harm as possible and discuss his 'rights' later.

[RICK LAKE]

vettestr Jeff lean on the police and the mayor of your town hard. You pay taxes, have a bussiness, wife and kids. They could have broken into you home and do WHAT????. They may and will come back looking for more things to steal. If the cops have finger prints, GET them run through the FBI. Do what it takes to nail these people. Befriend a cop. Go to a town meeting and raise hell. Get on the town internet and post there. Get cameras mounted out side the house where you think the badguys would come through. If you want to get nasty, add trip wire with cans around the house, plywood with nails sticking up at night. They will hit your house again down the road. Charge them interest. Set up a movement detector for the house and yard that sends a signal to your bedroom without turning on the lights out side. If you are quiet, weapon of your choice, you can give a real party to your new friends. After that, you have them arested for everything. Just a thought that works in NJ. Rick L.

[stuart.in.leigh]

Originally Posted by Trevor Legate

Here in the UK, just showing a fake or replica gun in public can and will land you in jail. A few months back, a young lad flashed a BB target pistol in a public car park. He was caught on camera and a few hours later armed police sealed off our street and went in through the front door, without opening it, and hauled him outside, whacked him hard and threw him in jail. He can expect a custodial sentence! All highly efficient but if a burglary takes place in the same street, you can forget about calling the cops - they got far too much paperwork to get through.....sort it out yourself and get over it.
At last, there is talk of home owners being allowed to defend themselves, at long last. Seems if we so much as touch an intruder, we have violated his human rights and stopped him going about his daily business (according to our so-called government, serial criminals have a 'right' to carry out their work!!) For my part, I'd cause him as much serious harm as possible and discuss his 'rights' later.

I agree with your final comment, although I wonder how I would react if I actually caught an intruder inside my home.
Some years ago we were awakened by a gang attempting to steal our BMW off the drive.
After dialling 999, I dressed (in a panic), ran to the kitchen and burst outside with the largest kitchen knife I could find, to be confronted by a masked baseball bat weilding scumbag, at the almost same moment the Police screeched to a halt across the street and the lowlife were off in an instant,in their getaway vehicle.
The police were more concerned with me and my hastily procured weapon than chasing after the criminals.
I later found out from a local solicitor, purely by chance that the gang was known to the police for ram raid burglaries, using high powered cars and that on the night at my house, one of the members was in fact an undercover Police Officer!
I gave the usual statement at the time, the insurance paid for the damage and I never heard another thing from Police or anyone else.

On another far more pleasant subject, may I say how much I enjoy your book 'Cobra the first 40 years'. It is superb.

Regards

Stuart

[Trevor Legate]

Thank you Stuart! I prefer writing books to beating seven bells out of mouth-breathers I have to admit. :-)

I've been lucky that my humble abode has not attracted any unwanted intruders (nowt to nick) but I did have a frogeye Sprite stolen from outside the house one night. I cunningly had little or no fuel in the tank and as the moron was trying to get to London, he dumped it down the road and stole another car....being a cheapskate has its advantages.....

[stuart.in.leigh]

Yes Trevor, the book wins every time.

And it pays to put just a fiver a time in the tank, but some of these Cobs would'nt get too far!

[vettestr]

Trevor, Although I live in the 3rd or 4th largest city it still has a bit of the old West persona. I don't know the actual statistics but of those I know and my group of friends at the minimum 1/2 have a pistol to protect their homes and family. It is legal and not uncommon to carry a handgun as long as it is in open sight. To carry out of plain sight or concealed does require a background check, training and a license. The bad guys out number the good guys carrying and play by no rules at all. Had I caught one the cops would not care what his condition but if alive I would fear their public defender to a point. No jury likes a thief but our laws are twisted to protect crooks way too much. I would never choose a judge over my neighbors to decide my fate.

Rick L. I do not feel need to lean on anybody as I was treated fair and told the truth. I did not like the AM knock on my door but I could have been in possession of a stolen truck bolted to the stolen plate. I am just glad I did not send my dog to his death after the cop in my backyard. Before I found out they were cops the dog would have taken anything in his yard and is so darn fast neither would have time to reconsider.

The cops are working whatever leads come there way but do not have manpower to chase petty theft over drugs and murder. My home, Biz. etc.. have security devises but this was just stuff parked in my back yard, they did not enter buildings. My back yard is a little over an acre inside a 6 foot wall/fence.

[trularin]

Fork the spray, we use 00 Buck!

[Danr55]

Jeff, Several of your friends would spray the hooligans with 00 buck or 30 cal buck, given a reason. I know of at least one of them who carrys a sprayer everywhere he goes. He figures it's better to have and not need than to need and not have..

[vettestr]

Dan,
It is great to have friends you can count on. I think our sprayer buddy knows he is not alone. Makes me think about that movie clip where some looser tries to rob the bartender in a cop bar and twenty plus cops draw down on the guy. Another 48 Hours
maybe?

[RedSnake351]

Originally Posted by vettestr

... Makes me think about that movie clip where some looser tries to rob the bartender in a cop bar and twenty plus cops draw down on the guy...

Jeff, that happened in Chicago a few years ago, the cops had a party in this bar and this idiot came in to rob the bartender. I'll have to search the net to see if I can find it.

Ralph

[fsiewert]

When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns!

[Fitz]

Sorry Jeff---

My house was robbed few years back. Ransacked and all.. Took laptops, pistols, change. Bad thing is you have to change checking accounts credit cards because you don't really know what is missing. Since then we have a safe. The biggest problem is the judges keep letting these kids off that break into homes.

If they held their parents responsible $$ it would stop overnight but they don't. Can you imagine if you had to go do public service and paid a fine because your dumb ass kid graffitied some wall. Do you think your kid would anticipate getting the crap beat out of him when he got home.

Uniform cops are good but very frustrated. Detectives can not get to work all cases as they have piles of stuff on their desks. They just take the information. My assistant DA (bunch of young lawyers just trying to get experience) wouldn't even take the bolt cutters, cell phone etc that I found in the recovered jeep that was taken. They said they got the guy (yes they got him) but were going after him for another car that was worth more $$. After all it was only his second offense and he was a druggie. Can you believe it?

Most of us would panic if we had a gun in the house and got startled. Probably shoot ourselves or someone in the house other then the scum trying to get in. Best bet is to have alarm that is loud so the whole dam neighbor can hear it. Have dogs also. I have both and set both every time I am gone and when I go to bed. Alarm company calls the house in less then 20 seconds and if I don't give them the password, the cops show up. I also let the neighbors (adults, not the young kids) that I am gone on vacation and they watch the house. I cancel landscapers, cleaning people etc. No one at the house except maybe deliveries.

[Duffinatur]

Hi, All;

I awoke late last year to a guy walking through living room. He had already loaded up a few things and was making alot of noise when I took a bead on him with the laser sight from my handgun. He had no idea that anyone was home and I don't think a baseball bat or club would have dis-suaded him very much. He swore over and over he was sorry but when the cops showed he swore he'd be back and I told him I'd be ready then too.
Many states have passed a Castle Doctrine Law, (basically; your home is your castle and you are in no obligation to flee an intruder, AND can protect it and your family)

My attitude is this: My right to protect myself and my family comes from God (or whatever higher power you believe in). The 2nd Amendment GUARANTEES that right, doesn't grant it. There is no power here or anywhere else that can tell me NOT to protect myself and my family in the best way possible.

[Fordzilla]

Originally Posted by Duffinatur

My attitude is this: My right to protect myself and my family comes from God (or whatever higher power you believe in). The 2nd Amendment GUARANTEES that right, doesn't grant it. There is no power here or anywhere else that can tell me NOT to protect myself and my family in the best way possible.

Spot On!!!!

[Hollywood]

Hey Jeff, First Time I Have Seen This Buddy, Sorry To Hear About This Bs. Had My Last House Burglarized And Now I Have Both My 38 Snub Nose And My 40 Semi Handy And I Am Afraid That If Anyone Is Stupid Enough To Break Into My House Or Even My Back Yard Where My Shed And Boat Is They Are In A World Of Hurt! I Know Way To Many Cops And They Would Do The Same Thing If Their House Were Broken Into.
Family First Always!!!
Just Glad To Hear They Stayed Out Of The House.
Talk To You Soon.
Jim.

[ROUSHAC]

Get a good (and loud) watch dog and put up signs that say "Dog loves strangers - says they taste like chicken."

If the numbnut still tries to enter the house, a 10 gage with 000 buck generally gets his attention.

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by ROUSHAC

Get a good (and loud) watch dog and put up signs that say "Dog loves strangers - says they taste like chicken."

If the numbnut still tries to enter the house, a 10 gage with 000 buck generally gets his attention.

With today's "Master Criminals" you would have to do the dog sign in pictographs.

Dan

[vettestr]

Hey Gang,
I ordered a replacement for my stolen personalized/vanity license plate. The cost was $7.47 for an exact replacement or $69.47 to change to a different Personalized plate. No inspection was required like the cop thought, just $$ and a signature. All in all I think I am lucky I got off so cheap.