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05-22-2010, 10:35 PM
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Tone, I think the cheapest to build would probably be the DRB with Torana base. It has the Cobraish shape and should be fine as a cruiser, they should be able to be made to handle well, after all the LH torana used to race and win at Bathurst.
But maybe finding a Torana donor might be getting harder?
(as you may have guessed I am not a big fan of the DRB shape) The small differences make a big difference imho
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Totally agree with you on the Torana Based kit..Still plenty of bogon driven Torana donors down here in Mexico...
DRB...COBRAISH looks  ..
Tone..... if your not aware of this in the DRB it's very easy to see in a side on profile and rear view if you haven't seen as yet.
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05-22-2010, 11:22 PM
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Totally agree with you on the Torana Based kit..Still plenty of bogon driven Torana donors down here in Mexico...
DRB...COBRAISH looks  ..
Tone..... if your not aware of this in the DRB it's very easy to see in a side on profile and rear view if you haven't seen as yet.
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Sorry Oz, I could not help myself, and the reality is that 99% of the population would not see it and if there are 2 cars side by side most would not know which one is correct.
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05-22-2010, 11:49 PM
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Totally agree with you on the Torana Based kit..Still plenty of bogon driven Torana donors down here in Mexico...
DRB...COBRAISH looks  ..
Tone..... if your not aware of this in the DRB it's very easy to see in a side on profile and rear view if you haven't seen as yet.
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My DRB has won many trophys against other brand cobras at shows including, Best paint,Best coupe,Top Classic and Peoples choice and Judges choice  . Looks like the public have voted  As for handling ,It goes around corners ,Doesn't rattle and Stops and pulls hard enough for me.  I have no problem recommending them. 
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05-23-2010, 12:07 AM
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My DRB has won many trophys against other brand cobras at shows including, Best paint,Best coupe,Top Classic and Peoples choice and Judges choice  . Looks like the public have voted  As for handling ,It goes around corners ,Doesn't rattle and Stops and pulls hard enough for me.  I have no problem recommending them. 
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Victor, Sorry I am not trying to offend any DRB owners, and that is why I said that most of the general public would have no idea what is the "right shape", Before I really started researching I only wanted a car that looked like a Cobra (I was almost ready to buy a Toyota crown based G-Force I had a crown at home)
It is only the nutters (like me) who have a more defind image in there head of what a Cobra shape should look like.
Any car can ultimatly win top paint (body shape does not matter in this category) Anyone with 2 door car can win best coupe (although unless yours has a permenant roof I guess it is more a roadster than a coupe - as far as my understanding goes) Top classic (nneds to be or resemble an older vehicle) and Peopples choice can be won by having more shiney bits than the next guy.
It is great that you have won so many awards (I have none - but I can go and buy them for $35 at the local trophy shop if I felt my life was less because of that fact).
The DRB car has a place in the market (I think it is Australia's biggest selling kit) and as I have said most of teh public look at it and would say "That is a Cobra" (or some say it is a MG), I would not have suggested to Tone to look at the DRB if I thought it was bad, but at the same time also wanted to let him know to look at things like shape.
The CR has a lip on the rear guard, this lip is not on most kits, and was not on all Cobra's, but it is something I personally like, the CR also has a small dish on the wheels, every kit has its plusses and minuses so all you can do is look at them all and decide what suits you best.
Please all DRB owners take this purely as tongue in cheek when I say.
The old saying is you can polish a turd, but at the end of the day it is still a turd.
Only a nutter like me who is enthusiastic about the shape would say that 
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05-23-2010, 12:27 AM
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05-23-2010, 12:57 AM
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My DRB has won many trophys against other brand cobras at shows including, Best paint,Best coupe,Top Classic and Peoples choice and Judges choice  . Looks like the public have voted  As for handling ,It goes around corners ,Doesn't rattle and Stops and pulls hard enough for me.  I have no problem recommending them. 
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Sorry Victor..the broken back look of the DRB must be a result of carrying all those trophies they win 
...as for it's handling you can make any Cobra handle if you R&D it,and put in a little time!!
...as for the general public voting See Boxheads response!!!!!!
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05-23-2010, 01:21 AM
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Sorry Victor..the broken back look of the DRB must be a result of carrying all those trophies they win 
...as for it's handling you can make any Cobra handle if you R&D it,and put in a little time!!
...as for the general public voting See Boxheads response!!!!!!
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05-22-2010, 11:08 PM
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Yes I think you're right Dave about Rob's being an RMC, however the process that he used could be used perhaps on other bodies, altho' it would have to be at construction stage, I guess. It would be nice if the body mould was designed to curve down and go under the chassis rail rather than be bonded to the outside of it. That would of course, make it very difficult to remove during construction.
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05-22-2010, 11:36 PM
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P......lenty of DRB's with Torana suspension regulary at the Cobra Nats kicking most other makes bums from memory.... I'm not on their payroll and I'm not a fan in general but if I could make my car go as quick as Towmaster or Tuf427 I'd be pretty happy.
I believe fastest Cobra around wakefield was a DRB in 2008 at a 1.02?? I think... Pythons are a few seconds off that..
There's a certain Harrison up here driven by the Proctologist that is very quick indeed and very well sorted too.
Not sure what QLD Club Pres will be running this year (Street or Race) but if he can get the race car to get through 1 weekend without breaking anything I reckon it'll be pretty quick too!
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05-22-2010, 11:52 PM
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Spook, the DRB's you have mentioned, are these Torana based or Jag based?
Also I think alot of people forget just how quick Ian Pretty got his CR to go around a race track.

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05-22-2010, 11:54 PM
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That is stunning paint too Victor!
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05-23-2010, 12:30 AM
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I may have been brainwashed by him.
It is just the shape, I have not looked under one but dont know why they made it so different to the "proper" shape?
As I said it is "biggest seller in Australia", so it cant be a bad thing.
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05-23-2010, 02:04 AM
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As Trevor Legate says in his excellent book, they all are "non-Cobra Cobras", many and varied and to suit the eye of the beholder. Perhaps the Kirkhams are the 'truest' shapes around still?
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05-23-2010, 02:52 AM
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As Trevor Legate says in his excellent book, they all are "non-Cobra Cobras", many and varied and to suit the eye of the beholder. Perhaps the Kirkhams are the 'truest' shapes around still?
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This is such an regular topic with the same views every time a NEWBIE asks the question!!
The problem is that some owners are just so bloody precious about their cars and won't or can't admit the faults ...in this case "shape"of the DRB which is quite a significant "FLAW" in the Body Shape ...Personally if I were the manufacturer I would have made the effort to correct it over the years but they have not chosen to do so!!  Still this has not been detrimental to the overall car(Except when it rains and the water flows downhill onto the Occupants backs  ).....it is proven buy the volume of DRB's on the road...and their collective success at National and local events 
Beauty is in the eye of the OWNER!!!...and the potential new builder or buyer is entitled to hear all of the Pro's and Con's with EVERY suppliers product!!
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This is such an regular topic with the same views every time a NEWBIE asks the question!!
The problem is that some owners are just so bloody precious about their cars and won't or can't admit the faults ...in this case "shape"of the DRB which is quite a significant "FLAW" in the Body Shape ...Personally if I were the manufacturer I would have made the effort to correct it over the years but they have not chosen to do so!!  Still this has not been detrimental to the overall car(Except when it rains and the water flows downhill onto the Occupants backs  ).....it is proven buy the volume of DRB's on the road...and their collective success at National and local events 
Beauty is in the eye of the OWNER!!!...and the potential new builder or buyer is entitled to hear all of the Pro's and Con's with EVERY suppliers product!!
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Except when it rains and the water flows downhill onto the Occupants backs.
Driven daily,and in the rain,never had that problem,even when i hose it down.  Every Replica is not an exact copy of an Original .Originals were all hand made bodys so 2 were never the same,if only slightly. All have flaws,and the broken back look, it is proven by the volume they sell, is sort after. 
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05-23-2010, 06:16 AM
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and the broken back look, it is proven by the volume they sell, is sort after. 
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For F%rk sake "SORT AFTER"   an original is sort after certainly not a DRB it meets a market demand in an idealistic climate for a sporty classic convertible that is easily registered in QLD...I wish I could sleep with my car every night Too!!!! 
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For F%rk sake "SORT AFTER"   an original is sort after certainly not a DRB it meets a market demand in an idealistic climate for a sporty classic convertible that is easily registered in QLD...I wish I could sleep with my car every night Too!!!! 
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and the broken back look, it is proven by the volume they sell, is and must be easy on the eye.. deleted sort after sporty classic convertible i like. I wish I could sleep with my car every night Too!!!!:its not that great ,the exhausts are to low  and being 6 1 tall makes life difficult.
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Hi all
Thanks again to everyone for their input.
Even as a newbie, I can appreciate the passion that you guys have for the Cobra - sills, broken backs, Torana parts - and all.
Beauty is truly in the eye of the be(er)holder - but in Tas we do not have many to see in the flesh - a lot of my research must be done on the net. So it is very hard to get an appreciation for the real thing - let alone the subtle differences amongst the replicas.
I do appreciate all the comments.
And I promise not to buy one of the Ebay ones !
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Beauty is truly in the eye of the be(er)holder - but in Tas we do not have many to see in the flesh - a lot of my research must be done on the net. So it is very hard to get an appreciation for the real thing - let alone the subtle differences amongst the replicas.
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Well Tony ,
I'm sure your selection will no doubt be well researched by BOTH of you   ...
I look forward to driving Targa one of these days in my REPLICA COBRA!!
Cheers OZ
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