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06-30-2010, 04:01 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sunshine Coast Qld,
QLD
Cobra Make, Engine: Harrison # 80; Ford 5.0L HO Trickflow heads, cam and rockers and MassFlow EFI
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A Cobra builder here up the road from me, just got a perfect Ford AU 2002/3 motor, gearbox, full harness and ECU for well under $3,000.
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Merv
Ford Cobra
Harrison #80.
Peregian Beach
Sunshine Coast Qld.
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06-30-2010, 05:30 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Sunbury,
VIC
Cobra Make, Engine: Rat Rod Racer, LS1 & T56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Merv and Sharon
I am thinking that there may be a reasonable limit to the horsepower 'race' for street Cobras. They seem, in my admittedly limited experience, to reach a point where bragging rights can be obtained about huge horsepower, but the driveability of the vehicle may well be compromised. For racing, the story may be different, but I note the regular success there of the smaller capacity Toyota motor as well.
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I reckon that limit is around the 400RWHP mark. Looking at the times at the nationals and Shelbyfest and you will often see that big HP doesn't equal big performance. The guys that work on the whole package are the ones at the front of the pack.
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Melbourne Australia
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06-30-2010, 06:28 AM
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Thanks Guys.
The required power to weight ratio is very interesting.
Growing up in Echuca a mate of mine by the name of Jim Verrall had a 289 Robnell with a top loader and a jag rear.Now I may have been young but by God the thing used to throw you back in the seat!!!
I don't know if it ever happened but Jim had genuine dry sumped injected 302 Gurney Eagle he was going to put in the car. It was a beautiful engine.
With low vehicle weight I reckon engine torque is the key,not hp.
Cos thats what puts you back in the seat!!
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06-30-2010, 08:47 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Cobra Make, Engine: Hawk 289 with 65 289 SBF
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The guys over here have the same discussions week in week out.
I'm going old school.
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Stu
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Building a Hawk 289 Slabside.
Powered by a 65 289 FORD
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06-30-2010, 09:24 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Fontana,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Lonestar LS427, 408w, 48IDA Webers, TKO 600, 9" Currie 4-link 4.11 rear
Posts: 390
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How do you justify it?
- Immediately have parts you have familiarity with and a possible inventory of.
- Save 10% to 40% nearly on every part.
- Do not care what other people think.
- At worse case you keep your hood up and still 50% (at least) of the on-lookers could not care less and do not know a Ford from a Chevy engine nor care about the herritage.
- Simply keep the hood down and it still looks beautiful.
I am not for it, it would trouble me more than it would anyone else, but certainly it is very simple to justify.
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06-30-2010, 03:23 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Jennersville,
PA
Cobra Make, Engine: Everett Morrison, Donovan aluminum BB
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For me it is familiarity of engine and parts, performance I want, and I built it for me and my wants, and like it was said before, even if you have a ford engine in your car, there are a lot of owners that have parts in other areas of the car that weren't in the original AC specifications. So why does the make of the engine bring so much attention? I appreciate (may not be what I like but) all builds if it makes the owner happy. As for resale value, yes, I think having a ford base will bring a bit more return but it is an acceptable trade off for me. This is similar to a thread I started not too long ago about a disgusted spectator.
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06-30-2010, 05:45 PM
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I have always loved the Cobra shape. I also love the new Corvette engines, drivetrain and suspension. I scratch built my replica and used the complete drivetrain, suspension from a 2003 Z06 Vette. I changed the diff from having a transaxle into accepting a driveshaft and went with a T56 6 speed. Although not authentic in any way I love the way the car drives and handles. It also gets 33mpg on the highway. It's also plenty fast. I say if you aren't building an exact replica build it the way you want! It's all good.
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07-02-2010, 03:32 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: The Hills,
NSW
Cobra Make, Engine: Absolute Pace
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One thing that amazed me when my car was finally on the road is that 90% of people have no idea what kind of car it is!
Out of that 10% who do know what it is, about half of them might actually care what is under the bonnet. Most of them are more interested in how big the motor is, not what brand.
I just assumed that everyone knew what a Cobra was, and the history behind them, but I guess we must be in the minority to pour so much money and time into a classic car.
Ben
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07-02-2010, 04:41 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Newcastle, Warners Bay,
NSW
Cobra Make, Engine: RMC . 393 Dart alloy block Stroked 351 alloy heads ..all the goodies plus a pre oiler. al
Posts: 1,495
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beejay
One thing that amazed me when my car was finally on the road is that 90% of people have no idea what kind of car it is!
Out of that 10% who do know what it is, about half of them might actually care what is under the bonnet. Most of them are more interested in how big the motor is, not what brand.
I just assumed that everyone knew what a Cobra was, and the history behind them, but I guess we must be in the minority to pour so much money and time into a classic car.
Ben
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Classic statement Beejay ! I've had mine registered for ages, unpainted and ugly...still building and improving. When I drive it (usually for rego tests and test drives) nobody looks at it. One comment from a HQ ute driver "geeze it's ugly mate". I've also had to explain what , how and history of the Cobra to many people who don't have a clue what the car is. Like you said only 10% know and they DO ask engine size first. I don't know what they say when someone says "It's a chev not a Ford".....mines a ford
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07-09-2010, 05:21 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Nelson Bay,
NSW
Cobra Make, Engine: G Force, Motorsport Boss 302 (LPG).
Posts: 103
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john chesnut
I have always loved the Cobra shape. I also love the new Corvette engines, drivetrain and suspension. I scratch built my replica and used the complete drivetrain, suspension from a 2003 Z06 Vette. I changed the diff from having a transaxle into accepting a driveshaft and went with a T56 6 speed. Although not authentic in any way I love the way the car drives and handles. It also gets 33mpg on the highway. It's also plenty fast. I say if you aren't building an exact replica build it the way you want! It's all good.
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I have a Ford in mine, but I do agree with this comment - "I say if you aren't building an exact replica build it the way you want! It's all good".
After all it's your car!
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07-09-2010, 06:12 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Claremore,
OK
Cobra Make, Engine: RUCC, 289 c.i. with a T-5 "Living the Cobra Experience"
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I have a Ford engine in mine but I feel that I don't have to "justify" to anybody anything about my Cobra.
I built it for me, NOT for anyone else and it turned out exactly the way that I wanted it to.
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"Living the Cobra Experience"
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07-10-2010, 04:43 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Newcastle, Warners Bay,
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Cobra Make, Engine: RMC . 393 Dart alloy block Stroked 351 alloy heads ..all the goodies plus a pre oiler. al
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There's a bloke in California that likes to upset the Cobraphiles with his version of a Cobra.
It's got a 1200cc boxer Vee Dub engine in the back.
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07-10-2010, 03:33 PM
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So who is going to build the first Aussie hybrid or all electric one ?
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07-10-2010, 04:05 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Cobra Make, Engine: VW Beach buggy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andyl
So who is going to build the first Aussie hybrid or all electric one ?
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How about the one I am building - with an aircooled vw bus engine in it
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07-10-2010, 04:06 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Cobra Make, Engine: VW Beach buggy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob. Smith
There's a bloke in California that likes to upset the Cobraphiles with his version of a Cobra.
It's got a 1200cc boxer Vee Dub engine in the back.
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Mine will be a 2 liter vw bus engine
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07-10-2010, 04:11 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Empire Bay,
NSW
Cobra Make, Engine: DRB 302 Ford HO Block
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Nah Andy ..........that's just plain wrong.
However if someone does feel the need to build one they'll definately need one of these.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9XAC-BvUyo
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07-11-2010, 01:15 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: South Africa, Pretoria,
GP
Cobra Make, Engine: 383 Stroked and Blown Chevy powered Cobra
Posts: 279
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Availability, cost, just wanting something different, what ever makes you happy...
A Blinged Chevy Engine.
Something different in a Chevy guise
Bulls horns look on a Chevy
Clean looking M5 BMW V8
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07-11-2010, 01:46 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: South Africa, Pretoria,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 383 Stroked and Blown Chevy powered Cobra
Posts: 279
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... and because it could fit in.
Like being Stroked and Blown!!!
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07-13-2010, 05:42 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Redland Bay,
QLD
Cobra Make, Engine: Harrison #100 under construction
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You know this is a bit like all them Bogans who put Chev badges on their Holdens !!
I tell you what, they arc up when you get an pld smart arse like asking...."whatsmatter ! Doncha like your "olden" mate ?" Whaddu ya mean ? 'Well it ain't no F@#king sh!tbox Chev is it !!
Normally at about this point I'm asked very impolitely " if I like sex & travel !"
(for those who aren't sure it really does mean F--K ORF )
LOL
Rog
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07-13-2010, 06:33 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: airlie beach / mackay,
QLD
Cobra Make, Engine: Some kind of FORD thingy, with several pis tins, twin chain driven SUs feeding a Y block, apparently.
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or the stroked and blown ford version
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