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Old 07-20-2011, 04:52 AM
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It is interesting how many Cobras these days have metallic/flake paints. The original colours were all non-metallic and are rarely seen anymore as we go for more and more glamorous and exotic colours.

I was determined to have a non-metallic colour in grey, but weakened too.
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Old 07-20-2011, 06:50 AM
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It's a photo out of the US, so GM stateside uses the same voodoo colour?
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Old 07-21-2011, 02:10 AM
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It looks similar, but obviously cant be sure.

Production vehicles are getting better with their colour options as the technologies improves but I have always had better luck from the motor cycle palet. If you go to your local automotive paint shop (i mean a proper automotive paint shop and not an autoparts shop) they should have some colour books you can look at.

Motor cycles have some pretty wild colours because there is not much required for a bike, the manufacturers can spend a bit more on it. Also a lot of the pearl and candy colours have problems with fading so car manufacturers avoid them.Take the books outside in the sun to get the best idea.

Worth going and having a look. You can get colours that rival the House of Kolor colours for half the price.
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It is interesting how many Cobras these days have metallic/flake paints. The original colours were all non-metallic and are rarely seen anymore as we go for more and more glamorous and exotic colours.

I was determined to have a non-metallic colour in grey, but weakened too.
Wasn't the 427 SC in guardsman blue ? It's metallic blue similar to the subaru tint.
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Old 07-21-2011, 05:40 AM
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I believe that these were the original AC list Rob. That is the UK ones, mostly 289s.
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Thanks for the tip Rob. Thats a great idea with the checkered sheet. I dont have a spare 2pack mask for the spotter though.

A big part of the problem is getting into all the nooks and cranneys in the chassis. Going to use my smaller gun this time. Also the lighting wasnt good in the garage after making a booth out of plastic. I have a halogen spot light but it is really difficult to spray with it shining straight on becuase it kind of shines through the paint and you cant see the texture.

Its a beautiful colour i am spraying. It is a motor bike colour with a lot of pearl in it. The only problem is that the pearl plays tricks on you whilst spraying. When you look side on the coverage looks great, but when it gets to the angle where it flips you can see straight through it. Im sure it should have a ground coat but the shop says the formula doesnt list one.

It did 3 coats of blue on the weekend and im not happy with it so now i am rubbing back the clear and will spray another 4 coats of blue with a bit less thinner before shooting it over with clear again. I am going to spray it outside this time if we ever get good weather again. Not too worried about a few little spots of dirt when it is the chassis. I have a booth lined up to spray the body in.
Believe it or not basic white does the same thing (light) it looks covered but can turn out very thin and transparent...hence the checker trick. I didn't realise you were painting the chassis. Good practice !
I reckon you should have put down a tinted primer to serve as a 'base coat'. When the 2-pack base colour dries flat you should be able to see thin parts.... (that's when the spotter comes in. Give him the mask and let him walk around with a bright light )you have a fair bit of time to apply more colour before you need to apply the clear....use slow thinners and hardeners. It's very hard to do it but don't rush the paint...I always get the need to "GET THE PAINT ON" take your time and relax. I painted some door hinges a day ago in very cold weather...about 19 degrees using heat lamps. The only downside I used standard hardener and before I finished the final coat of primer ( I always put too much on just to be safe ) the paint went hard in the gun. It takes longer to clean up than it does to paint the bit.
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:50 PM
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Rob, "very cold weather" and "19 degrees" do not belong in the same sentence. Been down to Melbourne lately? I would kill for a 19 degree day right now
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Old 07-22-2011, 05:46 PM
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Believe it or not basic white does the same thing (light) it looks covered but can turn out very thin and transparent...hence the checker trick. I didn't realise you were painting the chassis. Good practice !
I reckon you should have put down a tinted primer to serve as a 'base coat'. When the 2-pack base colour dries flat you should be able to see thin parts.... (that's when the spotter comes in. Give him the mask and let him walk around with a bright light )you have a fair bit of time to apply more colour before you need to apply the clear....use slow thinners and hardeners. It's very hard to do it but don't rush the paint...I always get the need to "GET THE PAINT ON" take your time and relax. I painted some door hinges a day ago in very cold weather...about 19 degrees using heat lamps. The only downside I used standard hardener and before I finished the final coat of primer ( I always put too much on just to be safe ) the paint went hard in the gun. It takes longer to clean up than it does to paint the bit.
Ive never had 2 pack go off in the gun before. You must have been taking your time. Dont get me wrong, this isnt the first time i have painted. I have done about 10 full resprays of cars and used candy's before, but this paint is just really transparent. I spoke to the paint shop about it and he said that if i use a ground coat it will change the appearance of the paint. I have sprayed it over grey primer on some parts and over silver on the chassis and it appears to look better over the silver. I just need to be patient and put down about 6 coats of blue pearl. Before i do the body i am going to spray some test panels with dark blue and black ground coats to see if it makes a difference.
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Has anyone ever seen a cobra in the tri-colours (chameleon) paint job?

Not a traditional look but with chrome accents would look really good.
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Old 07-24-2011, 03:01 AM
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There's one in the US that's powered by a Dodge Viper V10 that has chameleon paint on it. Looked pretty good at the time but the trouble with that kind of paint job is I reckon it will date over time. Kind of like murals on the sides of vans.

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I have seen a couple.

To be honest I do not think it suits, but does look cool.

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Not a traditional look but with chrome accents would look really good.
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:14 AM
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It is interesting how many Cobras these days have metallic/flake paints. The original colours were all non-metallic and are rarely seen anymore as we go for more and more glamorous and exotic colours.

I was determined to have a non-metallic colour in grey, but weakened too.
Merv, I will not be swayed by the temptation of metallic (I've had moments of weakness). Do you know what colour the dark blue at the bottom of the picture is or is that black and my old eyes can't tell?

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Has anyone ever seen a cobra in the tri-colours (chameleon) paint job?

Not a traditional look but with chrome accents would look really good.
Paul Gillis' built (Venom custom fabrications) one and it took out the show n shine at the Nationals a few years back. Powered by a twin turbo Lexus V8 it was a weapon. Number plates were 450KW..... Someone may even be able to post a photo or two about it.
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I remember this car. Harrison kit? Yes?

Certainly not Classic in styling, but I reckon it looks awesome & is a super-effort.

This is one of the best non-original interiors I've seen in a cobra.
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:02 PM
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PS: you might want to have a quick look a at this link for blues

Blue Paint Choices

Back in the day Robert Logan showed me a GT40 (Roaring forties) that was painted in Dodge Viper blue - which just looked smashing!!! Unfortunately I didn't get any photos.

It may have been a custom mix with pear & metallic flakes?

You could check with the roaring forties website for an idea... but pictures are don't do it justice.

Roaring Forties - Replica GT40s
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Mmmmmmm Lexus Blue looks like about what I'm chasing. I got a mate in the lexus game so I might get him to "test" a panel...
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This is Lexus blue with Lambo orange and Gm Artic white:

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Mine is Lexus Spectra Blue Mica with BMW sparkling graphite stripes..It changes color significantly in different light.
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This is Lexus blue with Lambo orange and Gm Artic white:

I'd love to see the Gt40 out in the sun. It is a very dark colour indoors, but you can see the blue poke through on the curves.
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