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10-06-2011, 04:55 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sydney,
NSW
Cobra Make, Engine: RCM, Jag front and rear, LS3
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Originally Posted by Ralphy
Liam forces do go both ways, however considering rear brakes at best offer 25% of your braking force vs. acceleration at 100% rear. Plus the rear unloading during braking there is no comparison. I also wondered if you were to add front coilovers. In your pics I see no upper mount.
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Its hard to see in the pics, but the upper brackets have a similar bracket on the other side of the RHS with the bolts going right through in double shear.
David, something else that needs to be considered is that the original jag cage is mounted on rubber bushes, so the trailing arms in the stock set up probably stabalise the cage more than they support the control arms.
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10-06-2011, 05:46 PM
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Brisbane Australia,
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Cobra Make, Engine: RMC under re-construction, GenIV with tremec 600, Jag 3.31 L/S diff
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Originally Posted by David Hodgson
I wouldn't think there is an issue of strength in the lower dog bone, but the weaker point being the inner pivot bracket and bolts.
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I agree on this point David.
That is why it is highly recommended to make up a plate to tie the left and right brackets together.
I'm not talking about a tie plate between the two shafts as vizable in Liams pics but a full plate under the diff tieing those two brackets together.
I recently supplied a mate with a spare inner pivot bracket as he bent his when he had an "off" and hit the armco.
What was surprising was that even tho he had used locktite, and the bolts were safety wired when he originally installed his diff , his bolts were all loose after the off.
His original installation used the tie plate between the pivot shafts like Liams but not a plate tieing the brackets together.
He has now made a full tie plate
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10-06-2011, 05:55 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Cobra Make, Engine: BBF 545 Stroker Alloy Heads Roller Cam Aluminium Flywheel Twin plate Clutch TKO600 9inch Independent Rear 335x17 Rear 315x17 Front 1140kg
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You could always do what I did..Throw away the Jag control arms and fit AU Double Wish bones and still use the Jag centre....... you dont have any torque twist problems
The Jag centre has since been replaced with a full alloy nine inch Jag IRS Housing Detroit centre and 3.4-1 Gears
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10-06-2011, 05:59 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: RCM, Jag front and rear, LS3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebel1
I agree on this point David.
That is why it is highly recommended to make up a plate to tie the left and right brackets together.
I'm not talking about a tie plate between the two shafts as vizable in Liams pics but a full plate under the diff tieing those two brackets together.
I recently supplied a mate with a spare inner pivot bracket as he bent his when he had an "off" and hit the armco.
What was surprising was that even tho he had used locktite, and the bolts were safety wired when he originally installed his diff , his bolts were all loose after the off.
His original installation used the tie plate between the pivot shafts like Liams but not a plate tieing the brackets together.
He has now made a full tie plate
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I havnt yet installed it, but there is a plate to go on the underside also. I am waiting to get the allignment checked before drilling the holes and bolting it on. The ends of the fulcrum shafts on the RCM also bolt through a thick plate in the chassis so there is no way it could come apart.
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10-06-2011, 08:35 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Canberra,
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Cobra Make, Engine: G-Force Cobra '68 302, T-5, Jag 3.77 LSD.
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Les/Zden, I think I recall threaded holes on the underside of the inner brackets, is this correct? I wonder if they were used in the original cradle.
One of the NSW guy's who I don't see anymore, Dale Benge, mounted his retaining the Jag craddle in a blown 302 Arntz.
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10-06-2011, 08:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Hodgson
Les/Zden, I think I recall threaded holes on the underside of the inner brackets, is this correct? I wonder if they were used in the original cradle.
One of the NSW guy's who I don't see anymore, Dale Benge, mounted his retaining the Jag craddle in a blown 302 Arntz.
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Correct, 5/16 unf holes two at each end (8 in total).
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10-13-2011, 10:04 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Melbourne,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Venom, BF XR8 260kw, 6 speed auto
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Awesome chassis!
I don't know if yours is approved, but when I did my torsional test I found the back of my jag diff moving, so I made a member that connected the diff to the chassis. Rock solid now!
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Originally Posted by Zedn
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10-14-2011, 12:24 AM
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Gday Sevenohm,
RCM contacted me regarding that and i am going to be fabricating two braces this weekend.
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