Absolute Pace

Go Back   Club Cobra > Club Forums > Australian Cobra Club

Welcome to Club Cobra!  The World's largest non biased Shelby Cobra related site!

  •  » Representation from nearly all Cobra/Daytona/GT40 manufacturers
  •  » Help from all over the world for your questions
  •  » Build logs for you and all members
  •  » Blogs
  •  » Image Gallery
  •  » Many thousands of members and nearly 1 million posts! 

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

MMG Superformance
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Main Menu
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
Keith Craft Racing
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
November 2024
S M T W T F S
          1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 02-28-2012, 07:34 PM
asbsa's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Glass 351c GT spec
Posts: 13
Not Ranked     
Default Auto Cobra won't change gears

Hi All, Just posting for a friend who's just completed Evans Cobra won't change gears. Engine is a 1998 302 windsor running a Tickford manual computer, the gearbox is a ED 4 speed electronic auto with it's own gearbox computer which we think was a one year only option, will not change out 1st gear, the box has been checked & with a diagnostic tool connected selects all 4 gears, we have also tried several different gearbox computers, any idea's?

Last edited by asbsa; 02-28-2012 at 07:51 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 02-28-2012, 10:34 PM
ICETOO's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Central Coast, NSW
Cobra Make, Engine: DRB #145, Ford 5.0 HO
Posts: 227
Not Ranked     
Default

If it was stuck in third I would have suggested that it may be in limp mode for some reason...any way using scan gear to see if you can come up with any network bus errors or fault codes.

Assuming that the fluid, clutch packs, bands, servo valves and selectors are all sweet it may be a computer network compatibility communication issue.

Ford 4-Speed Auto’s use TQ95 fluid as well but you probably had that covered all ready.

Are all the output shaft speed sensors, turbine shaft speed sensors, Electronic Pressure Control (EPC) Solenoid, Shift Solenoids SSA and SSB, wired in and networked correctly?

Just shotgunning here as a place to start, maybe some of the guys on here have had this issue and can narrow it down.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 02-28-2012, 10:57 PM
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: North Gold Coast, Qld
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 820
Not Ranked     
Default

if tis stuck in 1st means auto ecu is powered up
has it ever changed gears or is this first time running
its an ef or el v8 if its got seperate auto ecu?
pretty sure i know what it is if it hasnt been run before as this is
common fault
i can sort it if i have loom infront of me
sorry but cant give info out as its common mistake
just get him to take it to whoever wired it to go over it
__________________
my website

www.sideshowsperformancewiring.com.au
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 02-29-2012, 12:45 AM
Gav's Avatar
Gav Gav is offline
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mildura, vic
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR Coupe, 416ci of LS goodness
Posts: 2,349
Not Ranked     
Default

It is missing a negative supply to the solanoid loom I'd say.
__________________
Powered by Cu
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-01-2012, 02:13 PM
BMK's Avatar
BMK BMK is offline
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Australia, Zzz
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby alum 468 block
Posts: 14,974
Not Ranked     
Default

Go on change it manually..
__________________
Bernie Knight
KMS 427 #662 Shelby 468 CSX 1026
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-01-2012, 03:00 PM
Gav's Avatar
Gav Gav is offline
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mildura, vic
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR Coupe, 416ci of LS goodness
Posts: 2,349
Not Ranked     
Default

We do Burnie!
__________________
Powered by Cu
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-01-2012, 03:34 PM
OZVENOM's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Brisbane Australia, Qld
Cobra Make, Engine: Now built a race cobra.
Posts: 433
Not Ranked     
Default

Does it need a speed signal like the toyota autos.??

Oz
__________________
Left Foot Up Right Foot Down.
http://www.venomcobras.com
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03-01-2012, 03:40 PM
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: North Gold Coast, Qld
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 820
Not Ranked     
Default

It's cheaper to put a manual in it
__________________
my website

www.sideshowsperformancewiring.com.au
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03-01-2012, 04:02 PM
Gav's Avatar
Gav Gav is offline
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mildura, vic
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR Coupe, 416ci of LS goodness
Posts: 2,349
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OZVENOM View Post
Does it need a speed signal like the toyota autos.??

Oz
And throttle position too I'd say.
Without seeing what has been done it is a bit hard to say exactly what is wrong.
__________________
Powered by Cu
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 03-01-2012, 04:08 PM
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: North Gold Coast, Qld
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 820
Not Ranked     
Default

yes they run two throttle sensors both on main loom
but auto ecu is on other side of dash to engine ecu so
what I do normally is cut whole auto ecu off and rewire
every wire on it
maybe the guy who wired it hasn't done one before and doesn't
know the tricks hebeheb
__________________
my website

www.sideshowsperformancewiring.com.au
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 03-02-2012, 03:58 AM
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: North Gold Coast, Qld
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 820
Not Ranked     
Default

Anyway where is car
If its in vic send him to gav to fix
I doubt anyone would send it to me after the sheit hehehehehehe
__________________
my website

www.sideshowsperformancewiring.com.au
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 03-02-2012, 05:16 PM
asbsa's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Glass 351c GT spec
Posts: 13
Not Ranked     
Default

Many Thanks for all the replies, were thinking it could be the speed sensor it's a VDO one not Ford, Shift kits Australia sell one which they say will fix the problem & also adjust the shift pionts, any thoughts.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 03-02-2012, 06:27 PM
Gav's Avatar
Gav Gav is offline
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mildura, vic
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR Coupe, 416ci of LS goodness
Posts: 2,349
Not Ranked     
Default

I am not too familiar with the way that the early electronic Ford auto's work, but given that the shift points in mine are selected by speed and throttle position, that would probably work fine.
Can you choose your set points with that arrangement?
__________________
Powered by Cu
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 03-02-2012, 08:36 PM
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: North Gold Coast, Qld
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 820
Not Ranked     
Default

u just need to play with speed signals to adjust shift spots
but those kits from shiftkits aust are pretty cheap so they might be worth it
not to sure if its my end but that website is so fking slow can open much up

we dont like the old ford ecus hehehe so we wired up an ls1 ecu to a ford eb v8 that
was in a ford prefict/anglia just to see if it will all work and turned out ok
__________________
my website

www.sideshowsperformancewiring.com.au
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 03-02-2012, 11:48 PM
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: North Gold Coast, Qld
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 820
Not Ranked     
Default

Finally got onto that site
Those kits give u firmer shifts
U can prob use speedo corrector to make shifts happen earlier or later
__________________
my website

www.sideshowsperformancewiring.com.au
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 03-16-2012, 08:09 PM
asbsa's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Glass 351c GT spec
Posts: 13
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sideshow View Post
Finally got onto that site
Those kits give u firmer shifts
U can prob use speedo corrector to make shifts happen earlier or later
We fitted the speedo corrector, Problem Solved, thanks for everyones input.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy