New 331 Windsor Build

[Chris L]

G'day fellas;
A few pictures of the new engine currently in progress for anyone interested. Has been a long time coming, but starting to make some progress.



Its a Dart block with Scat internals to 331ci. Heads are RHS matched with a FAST 4 barrel throttle body set up. Hoping for 500bhp but we will see when it hits the Dyno later on. There is a lot of specs I have forgotten but will be talking with the builder this week and get a refresher course on what he has decided we need to get the results desired.


Hope it all works.
Cheers
Chris L

[Chris L]

Apologies for the double post, any tips on how to get rid of it?
Cheers
Chris L

[Towmaster]

Looks good Chris, why only 331?

[Chris L]

Fair question Towmaster, We could have gone to 347, but my engine builder felt this was the best combo for what I told him what I wanted from the car. I believe he wants it to turn pretty hard and the rod angle ratio required a little less worry over the long term. He is also confident of making the power with it, and it helps he is a friend and I trust his judgement as he screws these things together for a living. I know whatever he does it will all work together and that should make it a pretty handy engine.
I am very lucky to have a few mates at FPR, so when they talk, I do the listening and shut up. That is why its taking time to complete, the demands on his time at work are very heavy.

Cheers
Chris L

[Dimis]

Brilliant. Thanks for sharing.
Can't wait to read further details on this one.
Intake choice?

Good luck with the build

[albanycobra]

331's don't have all the oil burning issues 347's have.

[Rossba]

Hi Chris,

Great job, you'll love it.
Here is a pic of my 331 short block

Ross

[blykins]

Originally Posted by albanycobra

331's don't have all the oil burning issues 347's have.

Have you had a 347 that used oil?

[d488y2]

Awesome post. Looking forward to following the progress.
It's going to be one sweet sounding small block!

[BJ's Snake]

Nothin' wrong with a 331




Cheers

[Chris L]

Thanks for the replies fellas, good to hear others that are happy with their combinations also.
One thing I will say is I'm not 100% if we ended up going the Fast Injection set up, it was some time ago but I have a suspicion we may have gone for a Victor Jnr and Edelbrock throttle body for the top. I know we got hold of a Milodin Road race pan, lightweight yella terra flywheel, and the cam has 588 lift, there are boxes of **** everywhere so I will get some specs and post them up. I should have taken more notice but was in a state of 'bling' shock and he was very busy at the time. He has built some very handy engines including last years Bathurst winner.
The biggest reason I went there is I just want this thing to all work together as a combination and last. All the little things these guys know about these engines adds up and I really wanted that knowledge in this thing. Sometimes you just get a sum of parts put together and expectations fall short, we should be able to avoid that with this engine. It doesn't have the best of everything in it, but the whole deal will compliment itself.
Cheers
Chris L

[COILED]

Very happy with my 347ci also.
Some people put big motors in these cars which look great standing still, but sound like everyday cars and you can't put the power to the ground anyway.
Each to their own. I like the old school windsor motors, they have that cammy feeling to them, sound great, vibrate and give you that feeling of what the Cobra is all about. Just my 2c worth. You won't be disappointed.

[COILED]

Originally Posted by blykins

Have you had a 347 that used oil?

I never had any such issues on mine

[Towmaster]

I've got the same deck DART block but with a bored out 4.155 bore that equates to 369 cubes. Thirty cubic inches is a lot of torque to give up. I run a hydraulic roller cam that I spin to 7,000 and it makes about 475 rwhp with a truck load of torque from about 2500 rpm. No oiling issues for me.....
Good to see another DART Windsor block, you won't break that in a hurry.
Nice work, keep it up.

[Rossba]

I wish you would stop posting pics of your engine bay Towmaster!
You are going to make me spend money on mine. lol
Seriously, great work.

[blykins]

Originally Posted by COILED

I never had any such issues on mine

Generally, people don't. I think it's a common misconception that's floated around the internet, then was taken for gospel.

One of the magazine writers for Modified Mustangs & Fords has a 347 with over 100k on the clock. Doesn't use any oil.

[Jac Mac]

Most if not all the oil consumption problems are caused by incorrect oil ring fitment.
Ive pulled several apart to find the support rail above the oil ring & the bottom rail therefore free to flutter all over the place when it arrives over the pin bore & one was a classic- it also had the expander segment overlapped, therefore no rail loading & to make matters worse the expander 'humps' were doing a nice job of grooving the bore... new OS set of pistons & a next size bore for that one!
Never ceases to amaze me how many dummies there are out there...some of them actually hold down jobs in reco shops & yet a couple of weeks later they will be propped up at their local watering hole being an 'expert' when someone else is complaining about a similar issue..

[BITTEN]

It's looking great Chris. I'm excited for you.
What cam specs are you planning on using. I love the high reving 331 engine. Nothing better than the sound of 7500- 8000 rpms tickling your ears.

[Chris L]

www.clubcobra.com/photopost/data/500/1017.jpg
A little progress, hope the pic works..............if it does will post more details.
Cheers
Chris

[Chris L]

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A little progress, hope the pic works..............if it does will post more details. Fuel injection set up is next and Dyno time end of January. Shelbyfest is the goal.

Cheers
Chris