What are my engine choices

[kyleb]

Originally Posted by albanycobra

An AU Falcon 302 windsor will pass emissions??? Find an AU XR8 with the factory 347 motor. I got my 40 licensed with a windsor and it passed ok. Contact Roaring Forties for a 8 stack induction with ecu that passes emissions. Problem solved.

The 302 should pass now.. Only due to the relatively recent relaxation of the emission requirements, which is great.
When I registered my car there was no way the Windsor was going to pass unfortunately. But having said that, I have a very reliable Blown 550+ HP LS for what is comparatively very little money !!!
I took it for a run yesterday in 40+ degree heat and it was happy as.

[Dimis]

If a big block Cammer with an 8stack intake can pass I wouldn't have thought a small block would be a problem.

[kyleb]

Dimis.
Not sure you read my post.
They will now that the emission laws have been relaxed.
The cammer or 302 wouldn't have passed 2 years or so ago !!

[1 TUF AC]

if they have relaxed the emission laws then maybe I am wrong. I know a few guys that have passed emissions with stock efi 302 Windsor or on LPG but then they had to use special cat converters and a special tune to pass and once they passed then they pulled the motor out again and rebuilt it to make more horsepower and then another retune again. The point I was trying to make was that a stock LS3 FOR EXAMPLE Will pass emissions easy and has more than enough power for a cobra and you only have to put it in once and there is no for need cam swapping or anything like that. Its just a lot easier. if there was no laws I would built a crazy stroke Windsor in my AC. but it cost me twice as much to build one as strong ,reliable and powerful as a LS3. been there done that with my old Mustang. A friend of mine is actually thinking of putting a Xr6 turbo engine in a cobra it would definitely be different. And it probably will embarrass a lot of V8 Cobras at the lights is too.

[750hp]

Everything about an XR6T engine makes sense. Shame it's at the expense of the sound...

[1 TUF AC]

Originally Posted by 750hp

Everything about an XR6T engine makes sense. Shame it's at the expense of the sound...

I think it would be the perfect engine for a cobra for the reason that wouldn't wheelspin so much off the mark like the V8 Cobras do and once the boost kicks in it's all over. There is a nine second Orange 65 Mustang with xr6 turbo engine. 65 Mustang is about the same weight as a cobra. do the mathematics.

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by kyleb

Dimis.
Not sure you read my post.
They will now that the emission laws have been relaxed.
The cammer or 302 wouldn't have passed 2 years or so ago !!

Yes sir I did, and Im aware of the amendments to emissions regulations.

My response was merely directly answering the OP's topic, perhaps even trying to outline that an old school ford engine IS a viable option, and NOT taboo, or as politically incorrect as some on this thread seemed to have eluded.

Poor Zacson, shot down in flames for voicing his preference of a ford engine in a cobra of all things.
I never received the impression he "rubbished" anyone else's choices either

I've also received PMs from people scared to voice similar opinions for fear of receiving similar "treatment" or setting off some internet skirmish.
Seems a little ironic to me... So Ive jumped on the FORD bandwagon to balance the numbers a bit.

Kayleb - You need not justify your choice of engine to me, and why you chose what you did 2years ago. I was (perhaps still am) jealous, impressed and amazed at how your car turned out while following your build thread. Awesome bit of kit you've got there. Congrats!

Ps. Sorry if this post comes across a little hostile or confrontational. That's not the intent. Im hoping my written words carry the same vibe as if I were speaking to whoever was reading this.

Enjoy and best wishes

[Towmaster]

Originally Posted by Dimis

Yes sir I did, and Im aware of the amendments to emissions regulations.

My response was merely directly answering the OP's topic, perhaps even trying to outline that an old school ford engine IS a viable option, and NOT taboo, or as politically incorrect as some on this thread seemed to have eluded.

Poor Zacson, shot down in flames for voicing his preference of a ford engine in a cobra of all things.
I never received the impression he "rubbished" anyone else's choices either

I've also received PMs from people scared to voice similar opinions for fear of receiving similar "treatment" or setting off some internet skirmish.
Seems a little ironic to me... So Ive jumped on the FORD bandwagon to balance the numbers a bit.

Kayleb - You need not justify your choice of engine to me, and why you chose what you did 2years ago. I was (perhaps still am) jealous, impressed and amazed at how your car turned out while following your build thread. Awesome bit of kit you've got there. Congrats!

Ps. Sorry if this post comes across a little hostile or confrontational. That's not the intent. Im hoping my written words carry the same vibe as if I were speaking to whoever was reading this.

Enjoy and best wishes

So am I to believe the Cammer engine has achieved full registration in Queensland? Has there been a major change in legislation or has someone successfully bribed the right people? I thought all engines had to be an emissions compliant engine???? I am guessing this would open the flood gates for any type of engine to gain compliance????

[750hp]

Am I mistaken, or hasn't Craig W previously said that he has (or can get) an FE motor complianced in his AP cars?

[kyleb]

Dimis.
No worries.
I hope I didn't come across as terse.
It's sometimes hard to gauge intent in written word.
I have been a ford guy my whole life, so if I didn't have to comply with emissions at the time then my car would have a Ford engine fitted.
My point is that now I do have the LS in it, I'm very impressed.
It's a shame that people feel they can't voice their views on these subjects.
I don't think Zacson was shot down in flames, he was just wanting to know what choices are available and I feel it's been shown that there are many great options nowadays.
Cheers

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by Towmaster

So am I to believe the Cammer engine has achieved full registration in Queensland? Seemingly yes, at least 1

Has there been a major change in legislation legislation posted earlier in this thread if I'm not mistaken.

or has someone successfully bribed the right people? Why would you say that? I'm not sure what you're suggesting.

I thought all engines had to be an emissions compliant engine????Correct, as far as I can't tell

I am guessing this would open the flood gates for any type of engine to gain compliance????Provided it meets the legislation. What's wrong with that?

Responses above ^

Not sure why you think it's a bad thing.
Im thinking with the km our cars see, I could run the filthiest engine imaginable in a cobra and it would be anywhere near as harmful to the environment as me running a Prius as a daily runner.

[d488y2]

I'm going with a 1995 EFI 351 Windsor for my build. My Engineer says it shouldn't be a problem just as long as it can pass an IM240 test and ADR79.

[Towmaster]

Originally Posted by Dimis

Responses above ^

Not sure why you think it's a bad thing.
Im thinking with the km our cars see, I could run the filthiest engine imaginable in a cobra and it would be anywhere near as harmful to the environment as me running a Prius as a daily runner.

Dimis,
I would be all in favour of any type of engine gaining compliance, although I would probably stick with my injected 6 litre Windsor.

I wish the state authorities would just adopt a Nationally accepted scheme with regards to the engines allowed. Victoria is obviously different to Queensland and I haven't heard any talk of the Queensland regulations changing recently.

Apparently, in Queensland, the engine has to be a late model fuel injected engine that passed its engine emissions in it's factory OEM condition and must run the factory computer? Hence the reason most people are choosing the LS based engines because they are current. Also the late model fuel injected Windsor and Coyote engines pass this compliance. IM240 is not, I believe, an option up here?

I am not aware of any late model vehicle sold with an 8 stack equipped cammer engine in Australia? So that is why I asked if there were changes or if there was a loop hole that maybe guys could now run older style engines with aftermarket ECU's in Queensland?

This could be a game changer for engine choices in Queensland, and, as I said, open the flood gates for us Northerners anyway.

We don't have a club registration scheme up here.

[750hp]

How did Robnell get an 8 throttle body / Motec big block ford through rego back in the day? Different times, but that was also never a factory motor combo...

[Towmaster]

Originally Posted by 750hp

How did Robnell get an 8 throttle body / Motec big block ford through rego back in the day? Different times, but that was also never a factory motor combo...

I could have got mine registered with a carby as late as 2003...... So I am guessing a fuel injected motor back then would have been ok.

The 460 was available in F trucks right up to 1997.... according to Wikipedia. If guys now are using Fuel injected 351's (also fitted to F trucks of the same vintage) then I am guessing maybe if the 1997 460 was fuel injected? then it could also be an option? Just thinking aloud.....
The FE engine ceased production in 1976. (Wikipedia)

Were Robnell's produced as an ICV or a limited run production vehicle? If it was limited run production then they could get their own engines tested and then use them?

[albanycobra]

I need a 460 for my GT40.....

[Gav]

Robnell where a limited production car, so they probably did.

[spookypt]

Originally Posted by Gav

Robnell where a limited production car, so they probably did.

Gav all my research suggests only factory built cars were lvc. The kits sold were icv.

[Aussie Mike]

Originally Posted by 750hp

Everything about an XR6T engine makes sense. Shame it's at the expense of the sound...

I've long thought one of those XR6 Turbo motors would be great in a Lister Jaguar replica. A hot 6 can sound very good in my opinion.



Cheers

[Gav]

Originally Posted by spookypt

Gav all my research suggests only factory built cars were lvc. The kits sold were icv.

It depended on the state sold I think.