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08-10-2015, 03:47 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Adelaide,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AP 289FIA 'English' spec.
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Need advice on where to source flywheel and clutch
Need advice on flywheel, clutch (pressure and friction plates) and hydraulic TOB ...which ones, and supplier?
Hard points are:
1. Ford SBF 302, 50 oz imbalance
2. Quicktime RM-6063 scattershield (depth 6.3”)
3. Toploader gearbox (10 spline, 1-1/16” dia input shaft)
Flywheel needs to be a 157 tooth, weight 22 lb to 24 lb
Clutch needs to be a 10.5” dia max
HTOB – I know nothing, nothing! (thanks Schultz )
Bits would need to be available in Australia, otherwise freight for these heavy items from OS would cost an arm and a leg....
I've seen a big range of prices, hence any advice is greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
Glen
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08-10-2015, 05:52 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Warwick,
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Cobra Make, Engine: DRB, FORD 302W,T5
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Give Mal a call --he'll have everything you need :-
Mal Wood Automotive - Cobra's
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08-10-2015, 06:00 AM
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Location: redcliffe,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427SC 482 Cammer
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Freight from the states isn't that expensive you can get LCL (sea freight) reasonably cheap if you look around I just had a bunch of stuff shipped from the USA with a car import mob and it cost me $250 for about 1.5m3. Mine was assorted carton size so not being on one pallet possibly helped but the crowd I used is based in brisbane and I've used them a few times. Pays to look around and find someone where you are based and then organise ground freight to their depot in the USA and then to you here in aus.
At least this will open up your options and make finding things a bit easier.
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08-10-2015, 07:46 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Louisville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: I'm Cobra-less!
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Not sure what the prices are down there or how the exchange rate is, but I can ship you a small block flywheel/clutch package for around $250.
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08-10-2015, 08:50 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Melbourne,
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Cobra Make, Engine: RMC, carb 347 TopLoader and Jag running gear ~ so old school I time it with an hour-glass :D
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If you're wanting to keep it local...
I have a Yella Terra flywheel (steel) and a Repco single plate clutch in my car.
The flywheel came drilled for a couple of clutch diameters.
It was asserted by my build supervisor (brother) that 'modern clutches don't slip like they used to' in response to an out loud contemplation of a twin plate.
In my case my car came with an old 'long style' pressure plate so one sunny afternoon we took that along to the Frankston Repco and they pulled a new clutch & pressure plate - that was the same size - out of stock (11" from memory) [turns out brother & parts guy knew each other - in basically the same roles - from past jobs, so after the other parts were rounded up a 'haggling' exchange straight out of the market scene from Life of Brian was re-enacted '...$6.00 for a pair of dirty points?!..' etc]
Anyway - the clutch has held up despite occasional provocation
LoBelly
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08-10-2015, 10:07 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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McLeod Racing
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Great customer service and technical support...........
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08-10-2015, 04:21 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Revival #3199. 366ci L76, T56 6 speed, Blue circle custom paint, Australias most original cobra 2009-2010
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Textralia are great and have the best after sales service I've ever encountered. Fixed mine foc after running with the wrong pilot bearing (my fault).....
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08-10-2015, 04:29 PM
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What about an alloy flywheel to reduce freight??
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08-10-2015, 11:34 PM
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Personally, (and from experience) I like aluminum flywheels. Being a sports car, I like it rev quickly.
Larry
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08-10-2015, 11:54 PM
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damage, blykins and Jeff,
Thanks for the replies.
It's not only the freight cost from America, it's the potential problems at assembly time if components (for whatever reason) don't fit correctly, and need to be swapped/replaced....and then it turns into an expensive (time and $$$) problem. Mistakes and mismatches can happen sometimes, so my preference is for Australian sourcing. If it was a stock engine/bellhousing/gearbox setup, I might think differently
Cheers,
Glen
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08-10-2015, 11:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by albanycobra
What about an alloy flywheel to reduce freight??
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Billet alloy or steel....not fussed. I want something around 10kg to 11kg, or 20lb to 25lb. I'm assuming that would probably be a steel flywheel.
Cheers,
Glen
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08-10-2015, 11:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenrocca
Textralia are great and have the best after sales service I've ever encountered. Fixed mine foc after running with the wrong pilot bearing (my fault).....
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Looks promising. I've asked for specs and an RFQ
Cheers,
Glen
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08-11-2015, 12:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LoBelly
If you're wanting to keep it local...
I have a Yella Terra flywheel (steel) and a Repco single plate clutch in my car.......
LoBelly
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Thanks Michael. Repco are on my list for a visit.
Cheers,
Glen
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08-11-2015, 12:02 AM
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Yep, thanks. RFQ sent.
Cheers,
Glen
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08-11-2015, 12:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LMH
Personally, (and from experience) I like aluminum flywheels. Being a sports car, I like it rev quickly.
Larry
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Larry,
I've never really understood the real advantage of a light (aluminium) flywheel.
OK, it revs quickly under no load, but surely when on the road, its effect would be hard to notice?
I'm happy to be educated
Cheers,
Glen
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08-11-2015, 01:20 PM
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Glen, it has more to do with driving style than anything else in Cobra terms. There is more horsepower transferred to the drivetrain but that's normally not much of an issue with cars like these. I heal and toe, both on/off the track and it makes it a lot easier when the engine responds quickly. People not used to it can find it harder to drive as you can't used the stored energy in a heavy flywheel but to me, it's all part of owning a sports car.
Larry
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08-11-2015, 01:57 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1985 CCX
McLeod Racing
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A yup here!!
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08-11-2015, 02:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LMH
Glen, it has more to do with driving style than anything else in Cobra terms. There is more horsepower transferred to the drivetrain but that's normally not much of an issue with cars like these. I heal and toe, both on/off the track and it makes it a lot easier when the engine responds quickly. People not used to it can find it harder to drive as you can't used the stored energy in a heavy flywheel but to me, it's all part of owning a sports car.
Larry
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Another Yup! It's all about inertia and what you want to do....
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08-11-2015, 04:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LMH
Glen, it has more to do with driving style than anything else in Cobra terms. There is more horsepower transferred to the drivetrain but that's normally not much of an issue with cars like these. I heal and toe, both on/off the track and it makes it a lot easier when the engine responds quickly. People not used to it can find it harder to drive as you can't used the stored energy in a heavy flywheel but to me, it's all part of owning a sports car.
Larry
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Larry - define "lightweight" in a flywheel?
Wherever I look, a 22 lb to 24 lb (10kg to 11kg) flywheel is described as "lightweight". I had assumed that a 22 pound to 24 pound flywheel is similar weight to a standard or factory-fit flywheel. Anybody know?
This is the first non-standard engine/bellhousing/transmission build I've done, so ....I'm on 'L' plates here
Cheers,
Glen
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08-11-2015, 05:12 PM
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I think the last couple I used (Fidanza) were 13 pounds. I'd have to look it up to be sure but that rings a bell.
Larry
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