Need advice on where to source flywheel and clutch

[albanycobra]

Ross have you got prices and where to buy for these flywheels? I might get a lighter flywheel for mine

[xb-60]

Originally Posted by albanycobra

Ross have you got prices and where to buy for these flywheels? I might get a lighter flywheel for mine

Do you know what the standard factory-fit flywheel weight is?

[xb-60]

Originally Posted by Rossba

Hi Glen

The Yella Terra flywheel part number is 9909 for the 157 tooth 50oz.
9909L for a light weight. These are off the shelf units.

These are $350 direct from Yella Terra....

Ford V8 Cleveland/Windsor Yella Terra Flywheel, 10.60kg - yellaterra

.... similar weight (10.6kg / 23 pound) to the other "light weight" flywheels I'm looking at.

Cheers,
Glen

[albanycobra]

no idea on weight but will weigh mine in a few weeks when I pull the motor.

[Aussie Mike]

If you are putting a new clutch and flywheel in it's worth getting the flywheel and pressure plate balanced. I sourced clutch and flywheel from different sources. With the pressure plate located on the standard dowels it was way out of balance (according to the shop I got to balance them). The guy reckoned it wanted to fling itself off their machine.

Cheers

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by Aussie Mike

If you are putting a new clutch and flywheel in it's worth getting the flywheel and pressure plate balanced. I sourced clutch and flywheel from different sources. With the pressure plate located on the standard dowels it was way out of balance (according to the shop I got to balance them). The guy reckoned it wanted to fling itself off their machine.

Cheers

Totally agree!
All balanced parts before you go through that pain of putting them back in.
They literally just cut small pieces out of my pressure plate until it balanced. I was amazed how out or round it was!

[xb-60]

Originally Posted by albanycobra

no idea on weight but will weigh mine in a few weeks when I pull the motor.

Dave, please post the weight after you've weighed it. It will be interesting.
Anybody have a factory-standard SBF flywheel laying around to weigh as well?

Cheers,
Glen

[xb-60]

Originally Posted by Aussie Mike

If you are putting a new clutch and flywheel in it's worth getting the flywheel and pressure plate balanced. I sourced clutch and flywheel from different sources. With the pressure plate located on the standard dowels it was way out of balance (according to the shop I got to balance them). The guy reckoned it wanted to fling itself off their machine.

Cheers

Good point Mike (and Berninca).
For starters, the clutch and flywheel I settle on will be branded the same and from the same supplier; that seems a no-brainer. Balancing the two together should be easy and relatively cheap.

Cheers,
Glen

[Aussie Mike]

It wasn't expensive to get them balanced and it was well worth it for the piece of mind.

[deano59]

Originally Posted by Aussie Mike

It wasn't expensive to get them balanced and it was well worth it for the piece of mind.

i get every engine i build balanced now even stocky ones and i always use arp bolts like mike says for the cost of getting it done it's well worth it .

im just deciding if i will strip down the the engine i have for my cobra one it makes it easier to detail and paint and make it look nice and two i can freshen it up even tho it only has about 70.000 ks on the clock rings bearings bolts and gaskets and balancing and timing chain for peace of mind and it wont need to be done again for a long time ,

i use remacs in gawler some of you may remember des who owns it used to have a nice robnell quite a few yrs ago and every now and then he would put in the methanol engine out of his ski boat lol.
cheers deano

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by xb-60

Good point Mike (and Berninca).
For starters, the clutch and flywheel I settle on will be branded the same and from the same supplier; that seems a no-brainer. Balancing the two together should be easy and relatively cheap.

Cheers,
Glen

A yup there and well worth the peace of mind. You can use a different fly but balance everything before crawling under there and putting it all back in! IMHO.

[xb-60]

Originally Posted by Bernica

A yup there and well worth the peace of mind. You can use a different fly but balance everything before crawling under there and putting it all back in! IMHO.

If you have to buy both a flywheel and a clutch (as I do), then good deals can be had by buying the same brand from the same supplier, so it really is a no-brainer to do it that way. Can then balance them together (with the flywheel imbalance weight removed )

Cheers,
Glen

[xb-60]

Originally Posted by deano59

i get every engine i build balanced now even stocky ones...

How much of the engine do you typically balance?
My plan is to eventually have the engine neutrally balanced, but of course, as-is, it's a 50oz imbalance engine.

Cheers,
Glen

[Aussie Mike]

I got my clutch from SPEC in the US SPEC Clutches & Flywheels: Auto Parts, Domestic, Import, Truck, Racing, Drifting :: Home They were the flavor of the month on all the LS forums at the time. They had a lot of options for custom and conversion setups. Might be worth talking to them.

Cheers

[xb-60]

Originally Posted by Aussie Mike

I got my clutch from SPEC in the US SPEC Clutches & Flywheels: Auto Parts, Domestic, Import, Truck, Racing, Drifting :: Home They were the flavor of the month on all the LS forums at the time. They had a lot of options for custom and conversion setups. Might be worth talking to them.

Cheers

....SBF and Toploader aren't in their vocabulary.

What's an LS?

Cheers,
Glen

[Aussie Mike]

LS = LS1 = Chebby motor

They have listings for early Mustang so I reckon they would have something for your combination.

SPEC Clutches & Flywheels: Auto Parts, Domestic, Import, Truck, Racing, Drifting :: Results By Car

Maybe drop them an email and ask.

Cheers

[deano59]

Originally Posted by xb-60

How much of the engine do you typically balance?
My plan is to eventually have the engine neutrally balanced, but of course, as-is, it's a 50oz imbalance engine.

Cheers,
Glen

i do pistons and rods and the crank with the flywheel or flex plate on as well as the harmonic balacer

[Rossba]

Originally Posted by albanycobra

Ross have you got prices and where to buy for these flywheels? I might get a lighter flywheel for mine

I bought the Yella Terra one way back just before the BA Falcon was released and I have no Idea on price but believe the question was answered.
I put the light weight Yella Terra flywheel in the XY and is neutral balanced mated to the top loader.

The 157 tooth flywheel I put in the Cobra came from Castlemain Rod Shop as a complete package with the clutch and bell housing and is mated to a T5.

I don't know the weights of the factory flywheels as mine was a auto also.

I agree with everyones comments to get it balanced and use ARP bolts bot flywheel and pressure plate.

[xb-60]

Originally Posted by tkb289

Glen,

Have you verified the crankshaft end play? From what I have read, it should be in the range of 0.004" - 0.008". Perhaps Brent or one of our other engine experts can chime in.

Don't know if these numbers are different for a motor running an automatic (what your motor came with) versus a manual (what you plan to run).


- Tim

Tim, I did some checking on this subject as a little bit of reassurance now might potentially save a lot of $$$ later.
George Reid's excellent reference book High-Performance FORD Engine Parts Interchange has no mention of a difference in crankshaft end play between auto and manual transmission configurations. Same story in a couple of other SBF/Windsor books. Internet searches showed figures of 0.004" to 0.008", 0.004" to 0.009" and 0.004" to 0.010" but no mention of differences between manual vs. auto transmissions configs.
No comments posted by engine builders, surprisingly.
I'm happy to assume no difference.

Cheers,
Glen

[Rossba]

Glen

I found the part number for the Rod Shop flywheel if it's any use to now now.
Part no:FW42 CRS1699

Ross