Where to start??? - Page 2

pneall · #21 (**permalink**) 11-21-2004, 01:16 PM

Tenrocca,

I used Kevin Humphrey (Toukley) for engineering. He is familiar with the Classic Revival so if yo go for the CR this makes things simpler.

Talk to him before you purchase anything as the rules in NSW are tougher than all other states. You basically must have engine and computer from current model vehicle. So forget about long build periods or get the motor last, this is a little difficult as you need to nominate engine mounting when you buy chassis.

Its unfortunate for the purists but the current model FORD engines just dont fit in a Cobra (if you want a footwell).The Gen 111 (IV) or Lexus motors are the only real choice in NSW as the rules stand.

If the Cobra club can convince the RTA to treat Cobras like the Hot Rod association guys then it may be possible to build copies of Cobras but till then they are ICV's and must comply with the ADR's at engineering/rego time.

I dont see this as a real issue as I get a lot of enjoyment doing my own thing and would probably still pick a modern fuel injected engine.

If you can, make sure you have a look at as many Cobras as possible and talk to the owners.

There is a lot of info to be gained from the people on this site and most are willing to tell you pros and cons of what they purchased

One thing for sure is your in for an fun time and the feeling you get the first time you drive your Cobra is pretty good. The second and third time is better......

PS Long live the DARK SIDE.

Phil

Tenrocca · #22 (**permalink**) 11-21-2004, 01:54 PM

In regards to the engine selection, assuming this project takes 2-3 years to complete, and you have to nominate engine (for mounts) at the start, and you need to have a current model engine...then your stuffed? Is it an easy thing to do to have the chassis modified for a different engine late in the project? Once the new rules come in in 2005, is that likely to stay the standard for years to come. If so, then will any engine model post 2005 be OK? The LS1 motor...Does the engine mount change from model year to model year, and is it like to change in any future variants?

Also the CR kit sates the body is bonded to the chassis. Is it delivered this way, or are the body\chassis spearate and bonded later? Is it feasable to order the chassis now, and the body at a later date (when needed) or do you run the risk of the company going under and having a bodyless chassis :P? How long has CR been around?

So many questions........

Shelby400 · #23 (**permalink**) 11-21-2004, 02:07 PM

It is probably best if you speak to an engineer. I have sent you a pm with Kevins details.

Brett

pneall · #24 (**permalink**) 11-21-2004, 02:17 PM

The CR body is not bonded to chassis. It bolts on. I feel this to be an advantage as its easier to do the Mechanical stuff with the body off.

The Gen 111 (IV) engines probably have same engine mount but am not sure.

If you are looking at two to three year build then Gen IV is the way to go as it will be around for at least that long.

Changing engine mounts is not a big deal so dont let that deter you.

Phil

Tenrocca · #25 (**permalink**) 11-21-2004, 07:46 PM

One more question (4 now). What about insurance. Can you get it, just how much can it cost, adn what value can you put on a car?

I read one poor bastards story on a UK web site. Had a build diary over 3 years...then the bastard caught fire and burned to the ground in about 3 minutes on the M1 or something. Wouldnt that break your heart?

Shelby400 · #26 (**permalink**) 11-21-2004, 07:55 PM

Famous in Perth insured mine fully comprehensive, valued at 40k for $500.00.
Thats with the blower.

pneall · #27 (**permalink**) 11-21-2004, 08:02 PM

As long as you are not under 25 insurance is not a big deal.

Shannons quoted me about $600 for $50K sight unseen. I need to go back for higher figure now its on the road. Well it would be if my radiator would stop impersonating a @@**$$ fountain

Phil

Tenrocca · #28 (**permalink**) 11-21-2004, 10:18 PM

Man...insurance is cheap then on my bloody liberty!!

Found this on Ebay (I really jumpin the gun - only been researchin a week).

AU Falcon Rear IRS...is this the one that suits the CR kit. Its Melb if anyone is interested.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....sPageName=WDVW

Aussie Mike · #29 (**permalink**) 11-21-2004, 11:17 PM

Yep, that's the one you want.

Cheers

PCC · #30 (**permalink**) 11-21-2004, 11:27 PM

As Phil say's insurance is not a big deal if you're over 25.

With Shannon's mine is $586 fully comp. Just be careful with the market replacement value as in my case they were reluctant to insure more than what I paid for it so in theory I would lose out if it was to go up in smoke (especially considering the extra dosh I've spent).

I know quite a few owners (those with high value Cobra's) won't insure their cars fully due to the Insurers reluctance to insure "high" market values.

Their attitude is that it could cost a damn site more to replace in comparison to what the premium costs.

Not sure I agree.

Bathrone · #31 (**permalink**) 11-21-2004, 11:59 PM

Tenrocca, my advise is dont trust the certified engineering signatory and rsearch all the requirements anyway. Many freinds and my own personal experience is that they just wont put the time in to think your project through and its better to manage them than have it the other way around.

Your engineer and yourself need to work with the NSW RTA. Most typically when you get your chassis date signed off by the RTA theyll do a two year period, but a bloke I know had his extended another two years after he requested an extension.

Worst comes to worst, the chassis can always be modified anyway if the engine choice changes.

The RTA have a list of authorised engineering signatories for NSW. Keep in mind though that some certificates arent worth the paper they are written on (eg. my mazda has a motor too large according to the rules but I still got a certificate) and at the end of the day its the owners responsibility to drive a roadworthy vehicle. An engineer cant override the rta.