hoos got the right shape ?

[Rob. Smith]

I've owned my RMC for more than 6 years and was told that the body shape was taken right off a real 427. Just like most other replica manufacturers say.
Does any body know which particular brand is the most accurate in shape ?
I'm pretty happy with the RMC. it looks.. ok... I.... think.....

[Rob. Smith]

derr I just found the other article...where did they all come from...

[400TT]

Unfortunately the only ones that have Cobra's in Oz that are anywhere near the correct 427 shape, are the couple of owners of originals. Rob Sherrard up here in Brisbane has an original 427 street Cobra. And it seems that an original 427 SC is still here on the Gold Coast.

Oh, nearly forgot about that "lucky son of a b!tch" in Oz that owns that aluminium Kirkham. What a way to go.

Of course there are a few other nice rare Cobra replica's here and probably a few I don't know about.

After studying the originals in person, you really start to realise that our replica's are far, far removed. Maybe some were flopped from originals, but so much tweaking, shrinking, drooping & generations of flopping have occured since. It is hard to be certain of anything now.

What's amazing is that even the less original looking bodies, have some very original features not found on the more original copies. Does that even make sense.

Rob, who cares how original looking it is. 351w in an RMC, now that's a very nice ride in my books.

[sssnot]

I wonder whether the original roadsters were stamped/pressed or made on an english wheel like the coupes. If they weren't made on a machine, then probably 90+% of the manufacturers today absolutely do NOT have the right shape because they have all tweeked their bodies to be smoother/rounder/more simetrical--way more perfect in overall shape than an original, which actually makes them way off!! Hunter advertises their body as very original due to NOT tweeking the unsimetricity out of their car, for example! I guess this shows that the originals weren't stamped in a machine like the coupes as I thought. Anyone know??

[double ugly]

My Hi Tech is taken from CSX 3190. The wheel wells vary slightly in size from left to right, the indentation on the trunk lid for the bezel is offset to the left 3/8 ", and there are, I'm sure, other irregularities that I havent noticed. Some mfrs. splashed there molds from an original but modified them to be symetrical.
John:

[venom0427]

I finally sat down to try and find the origan of the body (but I’m still looking). The car is a 1965 427 roadster, owner; Tony Hogg.
The photo is of the book it is featured in the poster (top right hand side, silver) “the now and forever cobra”.


poster




book



I'm not shore as to were it it originaly came from, but i do know that its the same body.

I can tell due to the following;
1. Front nose is the same shape and size.
2. The front jack points are the same position and shape.
3. The brake vents are the same shape and depth.
4. The front guards are the same shape, style.
5. side vents are the same
6. As per rcm he has no side pipes out let, but mine must have been put in later.
7. Doors are the same, shape depth, style and contours.
8. My body didn’t come with a bonnet, but the owner said that it didn’t have a scoop on it.
9. Rear guards are the same.

So id say that the body in the poster and book is the same as the car in the garage, but in glass.

[clayfoushee]

Originally Posted by sssnot

I wonder whether the original roadsters were stamped/pressed or made on an english wheel like the coupes. If they weren't made on a machine, then probably 90+% of the manufacturers today absolutely do NOT have the right shape because they have all tweeked their bodies to be smoother/rounder/more simetrical--way more perfect in overall shape than an original, which actually makes them way off!! Hunter advertises their body as very original due to NOT tweeking the unsimetricity out of their car, for example! I guess this shows that the originals weren't stamped in a machine like the coupes as I thought. Anyone know??

Yes, every original CSX roadster body made by AC was handmade using the English wheel and various forms. As has been repeatedly stated here and elsewhere, there were many variations. Add to that all the mod and repair work that has taken place over the years of their existence.

It is hard to say what an original shape is given all the variations, but certain things do carry from CSX to CSX on a fairly consistent basis.

[jeffrey jackson]

By far the Kirkham

[LMH]

My girlfriend does!

Oh, you mean "Cobra" body... Yeah, Kirkham followed by ERA would be my best guess.
Larry

[clayfoushee]

Originally Posted by jeffrey jackson

By far the Kirkham

Yes, for a particular CSX number.