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02-20-2007, 12:24 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: drb,5.4 ltr,jag f/r
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power steering
hi guys,im wondering if its possible to put powersteering into drb kit if so which components should i use thanks
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02-21-2007, 06:05 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Revival #3199. 366ci L76, T56 6 speed, Blue circle custom paint, Australias most original cobra 2009-2010
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Gday Darrell - looks like no one has even thought of it perhaps on the drb. any owners like to comment. There has been very positive comments on the installation of P/S on the CR.
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02-21-2007, 11:01 PM
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Power steering
HI Darrell,
I have fitted power steering to my car and am very please with the result.
You probably have a unique combo at the moment with a DRB with the Boss engine.
I am not sure what problems you will face, my biggest hurdle was mounting and driving the pump. I found a way with a custom bracket and used the Diecrest 2 belt gilmer drive system, with everything it was heaps of work and everything was machined and reworked before they would fit.
Good luck.
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02-22-2007, 05:33 PM
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Location: Sunbury, Melbourne, Vic,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1995 DRB 302 Windsor, T5 (XR6 internals), Borg Warner 28 spline Diff 3.5:1 ratio, MSD iginition kit.
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Gday guys,
I actually saw a DRB with power steering a couple of weeks ago down here in Vic. A bloody nice job done i might add too! It was subaru pump set up and the engine was a 351 windsor. The pump was hooked up via a custom bracket. But as Philm said it was a lot of work and alot of machined parts. I too am looking at going down the power sterring route as well eventually. Ill see what i can chase up re info on this from the guy.
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02-22-2007, 05:45 PM
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Location: Cairns,
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Cobra Make, Engine: DRB Cobra, Ford 2001 4.6l Quad Cam Stroked to 5.2l (ported heads, reground cams from SHM + a Kenne Bell 2.8 Charger + Intercooler) Autronic SM4 Ecu, Autometer Cobalt Gauges, Trigo 8 & 10 x 15 Halibrand Knock Offs, Goodyear Eagle Tyres
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I want power steering to! Another strange combo though being DRB & a 4.6! I have always been told they (Cobras) are light in the steering once moving but pretty heavy at slow speeds. I reckon I'll have trouble steering it let alone the 1st soon to be wife (thanks Rebel1).
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02-22-2007, 05:56 PM
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In my one drive of a classic revival - and I assume other makes would feel different - it wasnt an issue of the heaviess of the steering - its more about The excessive feedback (not sure if thats the best way to describe it) you get through the steering wheel. Havent driven a non P\S car since my first sigma 15 years ago though! :P
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02-22-2007, 07:18 PM
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i would compare it to driving a torana with standard tyres not that heavy at all
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02-22-2007, 07:31 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: DRB Cobra, Ford 2001 4.6l Quad Cam Stroked to 5.2l (ported heads, reground cams from SHM + a Kenne Bell 2.8 Charger + Intercooler) Autronic SM4 Ecu, Autometer Cobalt Gauges, Trigo 8 & 10 x 15 Halibrand Knock Offs, Goodyear Eagle Tyres
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbn04
i would compare it to driving a torana with standard tyres not that heavy at all
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HHmmm, any of you good fellas who have seen me in the flesh would understand when I tell the rest of you that I am 'under nourished'. I don't think I'll ever have much trouble getting in and out of a Cobra, however being the ethiopian that I am, I may have trouble steering it.
Not that heavy at all for some is like saying everyone will fit in a Cobra easy!
The up side to this, you all ask. I can bling my car up and still be lighter then most. Thats what happens when you are only 60kgs.
HHmmmm, how much does power steering weigh? Counting calories here.
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02-22-2007, 07:34 PM
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under nourished love it
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02-22-2007, 08:10 PM
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Location: Ellington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster 351W, T5, Red & White
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Reference:
http://www.krcpower.com/index2.ivnu
KRC Power steering Pumps were originally designed for race cars
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02-22-2007, 09:37 PM
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Anti steering,
the main reason for the powersteer is as Andrew has said "excessive feed back".
I had a few instances when the car was understeering but when it found grip snaped the wheel back violently, and with the Mota Lita wheel it hooked my thumb and bent it back. Ouch
NOw the powersteering rack acts like a dampener, and this no longer happens.
There was also a better wheel ratio, less turns from lock to lock, have you ever tried to quickly turn lock to lock, hitting your elbows on the sill. Not a very comfortable manouver.
The very obvious improvement is in slow speed "parking" .
I have found it to be really good on the track you are very relaxed driving not muscling it arround. After a dozon laps of wakefield you can really feel it in your shoulders, with the power steering it is easy.
I recomend it, most modern race cars have powersteering.
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02-24-2007, 04:28 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Revival, Gen3 ls1, Vortech T-Trim, Motec, tremec M12, wilwood brakes.
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Hi Phil
Did you use a VL Power rack or something else?
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02-24-2007, 02:11 PM
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I was thinking about it a few years back and didn't get around to it.
The best solution I found was:
Castlemaine Rod shop did a PS conversion for Torana front ends.
They used a Ford Cortina rack with modified steering arms and an electric PS pump from a Toyota MR2.
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02-25-2007, 03:50 AM
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Now I know better.
Craig,
Yes I have used an unmodified VL rack. The steering shaft takes a bit of fiddling, I have seen some others get a new shaft made trhat links the barina to the VL universal on the rack.
Reptyl,
I like the idea of the electric pump would have saved a lot of time and swearing.
Phil
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02-25-2007, 08:58 AM
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Reference my Posting on Power Steering:
Power Steering Installed
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02-26-2007, 01:23 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: drb,5.4 ltr,jag f/r
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thanks for all the feedback guys that gives me something to stew over,basically this is the time to find out about my options and build them /or not, into the car rather than once motor is in,,,again thanks for the replys
cheers
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