Absolute Pace

Go Back   Club Cobra > Club Forums > Australian Cobra Club

Welcome to Club Cobra!  The World's largest non biased Shelby Cobra related site!

  •  » Representation from nearly all Cobra/Daytona/GT40 manufacturers
  •  » Help from all over the world for your questions
  •  » Build logs for you and all members
  •  » Blogs
  •  » Image Gallery
  •  » Many thousands of members and nearly 1 million posts! 

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

Keith Craft Racing
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Main Menu
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
January 2025
S M T W T F S
      1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31  

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 06-14-2007, 09:06 PM
LoBelly's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Melbourne, VIC
Cobra Make, Engine: RMC, carb 347 TopLoader and Jag running gear ~ so old school I time it with an hour-glass :D
Posts: 1,293
Not Ranked     
Default Fly Spy

on the cusp of ordering my bits for the 347 build/assembly.

decided I'd get a new steel or aluminium flywheel for safety and if possible a lighter one...

however, I have been asked if I need a 164 or 157 tooth flywheel

are they both the same size and will they both work with my starter (to be transferred from the 289)

I suspect that the choice may affect the clutch I can run (confirmation anyone)

I have a practically new clutch (diaphram style replacing long style that came with the engine) that I was intending to re-use - it took some shopping around to get. but I dont have the part # or anything.

a search on the forum revealed so many references to flywheels but after wading through a whole bunch of them I haven't really found the answer

thanks
LoBelly
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 06-14-2007, 10:11 PM
Aussie Mike's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Sunbury, VIC
Cobra Make, Engine: Rat Rod Racer, LS1 & T56
Posts: 5,391
Not Ranked     
Default

Shop local and talk to the guys at Yella Terra. They do some really nice billet steel flywheels. I bought mine throught them. They should be able to supply one to suit what ever clutch hat bolt pattern you have. Their quality is top notch and they ship them all over the world as OEM manufacturers for other brands

They can also do lightweight steel flywheel. I believe a stock LS1 flywheel is 10.5KG but my Yella Terra steel one is only 7KG. An aluminium one is 6.5KG.

Yella Terra

Windsor Flywheels

Cheers
__________________
Mike Murphy
Melbourne Australia

Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 06-14-2007, 11:14 PM
LoBelly's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Melbourne, VIC
Cobra Make, Engine: RMC, carb 347 TopLoader and Jag running gear ~ so old school I time it with an hour-glass :D
Posts: 1,293
Not Ranked     
Default

sounds like a plan

ta
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 06-14-2007, 11:18 PM
sambo's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Melbourne, VIC
Cobra Make, Engine: Harrison, 6.0L Chev
Posts: 2,513
Not Ranked     
Default

Are there any issues with having a flywheel that is too light? I've heard that apart from acting as a damper and somewhere for the clutch to grip, they also help maintain inertia between gear changes. I can't remember where I read that but I certainly didn't make it up!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 06-14-2007, 11:49 PM
Aussie Mike's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Sunbury, VIC
Cobra Make, Engine: Rat Rod Racer, LS1 & T56
Posts: 5,391
Not Ranked     
Default

I guess in simple terms the flywheel stores power. The heavier the flywheel the more power it will store. The heavy flywheel takes more power to wind up but gives back more power as it winds down.

A heavy flywheel is good for getting the car off the mark. The inertia stored helps plug the gap between where your clutch engages and the engine starts feeding power through it. It takes a bit of finess to smoothly engage the clutch whilst applying the power to get the car moving The heavier flywheel makes the car a lot more forgiving to get going.

The cars our engines came from were a lot heavier and designed to be driven by regular joe public regardless of skill. Our cobras are a lot lighter and hence easier to get moving. Most of us drive for the pleasure of driving rather than getting from A-B so we hone our skill. A lighter flywheel can be used and the car will still be easy to get of the mark.

For a sporting car that is accelerating and decelerating rapidly a heavy flywheel isn't so good. A lighter flywheel is better because it spins up quicker and slows down quicker too. Great for accelerating out of one turn before braking hard for the next turn.

That's my theory anyway and others may differ. The 7KG flywheel is fine for getting off the mark in my car even with the copper ceramic button clutch.

Cheers
__________________
Mike Murphy
Melbourne Australia

Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 06-15-2007, 03:29 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: New Zealand, WLG
Cobra Make, Engine: DRB - 302, T5, VN Rear
Posts: 55
Not Ranked     
Default

LoBelly,

I converted my auto engine to manual so had to purchase a new flywheel. I got a 157 tooth fly wheel as I am running a T5 and this requires the smaller wheel. Make sure you get the balancing factor right as well.

This is from the Ford Racing Catalog:
Did you know…
1968-80 302 engines were built with a 28-ounce imbalance factor.
1981-01 302 engines were built with a 50-ounce imbalance factor.
1969-97 351W engines were built with a 28-ounce imbalance factor.
1970-74 351C engines were built with a 28-ounce imbalance factor.
NOTE: Severe engine damage will result if you use the wrong flywheel or damper on your engine.

Download the catalog from Ford Racing Parts . This has more info that will help you choose, look at page 128.

Cheers,
Dan
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy