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Old 07-30-2007, 05:16 AM
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This is the "traditional" jag rear end in an RMC with shortened driveshafts to allow for dished wheels



These are australian produced 5 stud Halibrand replica wheels for those of us can't afford the real thing. (I am envious of your wheels Plums)

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Old 07-30-2007, 05:59 AM
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That is exactly the type of look that I am after. Where did you get those Halibrands from?.
They are Vintage Wheels. Knock-off wheels with an adaptor. See http://www.vintagewheelsus.com They are truly beautiful quality wheels in the flesh.

To fit any of those wheels you need a car that can fit deep dish wheels. e.g. Harrison do a special fabricated independent rear etc to fit. Others like G Force, RMC etc should be able to squeeze them in. 17" versions(plums) have better backspacing(half inch extra) than the original looking 15" versions.
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They are a very nice wheel, I am very impressed with the quality!!!!

The G-Force has the standard 56 inch (I think) track, which is supposed to be what the original cars ran. I did get the rear-end shortened by 20mm per side though, this did make these wheels fit slightly better, but was more to enable the drag rubber and wheels that I wanted to run....

The wheel centre colour is the standard "some name" grey.......
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:53 AM
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Anyone looking for Halibrand style wheels for a Harrison should consider Millaz Wheels here in Melbourne. Not cheap at $3500 for the set but they will tack the centres in at your requested offsets and allow you to trial fit before sending them back for completion. I've got a PDF file if anyone is interested - send me your email address because I can't email file attachments from this forum.

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Old 07-30-2007, 07:15 AM
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Out of interest - what is the approx front space (wheel edge to mounting face) on the standard Skyline rear in the harrison?

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Hi T.L.

Here's another shot of deep rear wheels on my RCM (not be be confused with RMC )



RCM is also based in Melbourne if that helps you.

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Nassty (Al,)

The RCM (not RMC), how do you find that kit, okay and the support is good?. Being a local supplier I guess it would be good for me to drop in on them and say hello. They are down Blackburn Rd aren't they?.

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Personally I would go see Doug Pearce to see the difference between kits.

The RCM is one of the cheapest, but compared to something like a Harrison, requires a lot more work to finish. Depends really what you are after. Having a local kit has it's advantages.
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The RCM (not RMC), how do you find that kit, okay and the support is good?. Being a local supplier I guess it would be good for me to drop in on them and say hello. They are down Blackburn Rd aren't they?.

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Yeah, in Blackburn which is really handy for me.

RCM have recently got new molds that are now very clean. The old mold which I've got required more work but both are an excellent shape in my opinion. The chassis is similar to an RMC with shortened Jag front and rear ends and weighs about 1200kg when finished. At the Nats, RCMs have won trophies but then again so has every other kit manufacturer. Customer service is excellent, no question goes unanswered. The only thing to consider is that RCM is a hobby business. The owner has a day job so things do take longer than a full time manufacturer. The kit is also very hands on but then again it's also cheaper and frankly it isn't too hard to do. To date I think they're about 90 kits on the road.

I'd suggest to trek up to the Nats before you buy and then you can get up close to all the different kits and suss out the differences between them. The Nats are just around the corner, end of September.
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Hey Plums,
I think your side pipes are on back to front.
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Welcome T.L.

Plenty of information here!!

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Anyone looking for Halibrand style wheels for a Harrison should consider Millaz Wheels here in Melbourne. Not cheap at $3500 for the set but they will tack the centres in at your requested offsets and allow you to trial fit before sending them back for completion. I've got a PDF file if anyone is interested - send me your email address because I can't email file attachments from this forum.

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I have just (Saturday) dropped my Harrison's onto the Millaz wheels you refer to. Here are a couple of shots for reference.






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Out of interest - what is the approx front space (wheel edge to mounting face) on the standard Skyline rear in the harrison?

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The wheels above have frontspace of 125(R) and 80(F) - in 16". I reckon the rears could even go out another 10mm or so, but I won't really know until I do all the alignments.

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Looking good Geof, I was wondering how you went getting it down on the ground.

Won't be long now until you will be posting a engine starting up video here.

Those front space measurements are with standard Harrison front end and R32 Skyline rear-end.
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Looks great Geof! How wide are those wheels? I'm guessing 8 and 10 inch? Did you consider the "Traditional Racer" style?
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Yes, they are 16x8" & 16x10".

Here is a photo showing Geof's rear dish.


I reckon Cobra's look good with front wheels under the front guards, but the rear wheels look great filling right out the rear guards, as long as it doesn't cause rubbing etc.

So at the moment it does look like Geof's could have specified more front space(less backspace) on the rear, but he has gone for a bit of insurance with his offsets, which is never a bad idea.
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Looks great Geof! How wide are those wheels? I'm guessing 8 and 10 inch? Did you consider the "Traditional Racer" style?
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Long, long story, but in short, yes. I actually initially intended to get the Traditional Racer but there was some problems getting these with the offsets required so I stuck with the wine glass variety in a raw finish. Wheels are indeed 8" and 10".

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Old 07-31-2007, 08:08 PM
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Hmmm... that's a concern. Maybe with some fiddling I can get them to fit my Harrison. Was it the fronts or the rears that were a problem, or was it left-to-right misalignment of the body?
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If I remember rightly, the fronts will be the problem. I think it was about 25mm out. I spoke to Warwick about this just before I sent the car for paint and he suggested that I could cut and shut the front guards to fit the wheels under. I decided to stick with the body and change the wheels!!

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Old 07-31-2007, 11:33 PM
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Harrison owners and those to be... I just spoke to Warwick and thought I'd pass on that he's moved to R33 Skyline rear ends as the R32 is becoming scarce. This brings the diff ratio back to 4.1 (from 4.363). Apparently the mounting points are slightly wider so it's not a straight swap for the whole cradle. Either way it probably means there's more aftermarket goodies out there for us.
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