Another new person looking at kits.

[T.L.]

Hi all,

Have just joined the club after stumbling accross your forum, and have since spent a lot of hours, much to net providers delight in looking through the old forum topics, especially relating to the big question 'who's kit should I go with'.

There is a lot of information that has been beneficial to me, and going forward I can see how some problems can be solved quite easily as some/most people have already been there, done that.

Leaning towards a Harrison with the R32 rear, or RMC at the moment. Both to be propelled by the chev ls2/l76 (the dark side or something like that as it seems to be referred to in here )or whatever is the current version of the Gen motors will be when I get my backside into gear. I will be using the tremac T56 gearbox, from what I have read about your cars, that seems a pretty popular match.

Any thoughts on the final decision on these 2 would be greatly appreciated, and most welcome, either good or bad, as I still need to make the informed decision.

I will try to get along to the next melb meeting, but is there any show and shine day or meeting on an upcoming weekend where a large number of cars will be represented.

Anyway, I look forward to reading more about what to do and more importantly what not to do. Just been reading Aussie mikes Vin process, and found that interesting, so hopefully one day, I can boast that I have got it on the road.

CU in cyberspace.

TL

[Aussie Mike]

Welcome to the forum TL.

Researching kits is a big part of the fun of the build.

Don't rule out the G-Force or the CR in your research. The new G-Force body is a very nice piece of fiberglass. Ask Plums about his. He's running a dark side motor too.

Will you be heading along to the Vic club meeting on Thursday?

Cheers

[sambo]

Welcome T.L. If you come to this week's Vic Club meeting you will be able to meet a few of the members and I believe there's a drag day at Heathcote this weekend, so you might see a few cars there. You don't need to have a running Cobra to attend monthly meetings or indeed any of the club events.

My Harrison rolling chassis arrives next week and I'd be happy to show you how it looks straight from the shop.

In a few months once the weather picks up there's bound to be plenty more opportunities to see cars on the road or at meetings. I'm sure a few more guys here will extend you an invite to check out their sheds too.

All the best with the decision!

Paul

[Rebel1]

Gawd, not another Victorian wanting to build a dark side cobra!.

Breeding like bluddy rabbits they are.

Now...here is my take on the whole deal. Harrison or G-Force.

Why?.....Harrison for fantastic service and a well shaped body and an excellent finished product.....G-Force for quality of body molding ( read cheaper to paint) and use of the Jag rear end.

RMC for excellent street manners ( a bit heavy for track), very strong chassis but poor body mold ( expensive to paint) and uses Jag rear end.

I have a soft spot for the Jag rear but I'm an elder statesman and a bit of a traditionalst.

Engine choice: Very hard to beat the Holden offerings for ease of fitment and cost/performance. Current 6Ltrs Gen4 offerings up to 300rwKw with cam, tune and cold air. Soon to be a 6.2 Ltr big brother of the L76 will offer much higher than 300rwKw. No problems getting the Gen4 accepted.

Just my opinion. I'm sure others will offer theirs.

[400TT]

Agree with Rebel1.

But performance wise, you can't go past the modern rear-ends especially something like Skyline rear with it's 300mm vented rotors & 2 piston calipers. Just a fantastic unit all round and great value for money. But just not a lot of rear wheel dish on a Cobra.

[stiffy]

Hey TL,


I have a 1988 RMC (recently rebuilt thanks to too much right foot and not enough talent ) great looking car ( I used the G-FORCE body),
They are easy to drive and are one of the better older looking kits (IMO).

I have just taken delivery of a Harrison Daytona (L76/6 Speed).
If I was to build a Cobra it would most likely be a Harrison!!!

If you want to look at a number of kits speak to Doug Pearce in Lilydale (9739 4222) he has a few of every kit in differing stages of build on site for you to look at. He also has a very UGLY looking Daytona that he is converting into Jennifer Hawkins

Come along to the meeting this Thursday if you can.
7pm Club Tivoli 291 Dandenong Road Windsor

STIFFY

[Aussie Mike]

Originally Posted by stiffy

He also has a very UGLY looking Daytona that he is converting into Jennifer Hawkins

That's probably the only way you're going to get inside Jenifer Hawkins too Stiffy.

Cheers

[stiffy]

Good one Aussie,


I could get a life size blow up doll!!!


STIFFY

[Aussie Mike]

There's probably a market for one of those.

[Merv and Sharon]

Welcome TL. They say anticipation is better than gratification. I am not so sure about that having.... (better stop there). Seriously though, I went throught the same path over the last 6 months and settled for a Harrison mainly because of the guy and his reputation. There are many other good builds and companies but he is communicates well and is always seems interested in what you want to do. I also have gone the L76 T56 route mainly because I want a new car with plenty in reserve. Do look around, however, and enjoy the journey.

Merv

[T.L.]

Originally Posted by 400TT

Agree with Rebel1.

But performance wise, you can't go past the modern rear-ends especially something like Skyline rear with it's 300mm vented rotors & 2 piston calipers. Just a fantastic unit all round and great value for money. But just not a lot of rear wheel dish on a Cobra.

Craig,

So the width of the rear wheel is reduced a little is it?. Can you still run 9 1/2 -10" on there or is that pushing it with clearances for the red tape people?.

Thanks for comments

TL

[400TT]

Originally Posted by T.L.

Craig,

So the width of the rear wheel is reduced a little is it?. Can you still run 9 1/2 -10" on there or is that pushing it with clearances for the red tape people?.

Thanks for comments

TL

Sorry, should have explained it better. It's just got to do with how deep the wheel looks. How much rim is sticking out in front of the wheel centre and how much is sticking in. Nothing to do with width. So traditional Cobra look is to have lots of rim sticking outside, with Skyline rear you have what a call a medium amount of rim sticking out, with say a Classic Revival you have very little outside rim. With modern interpretation of Cobras these days, deep dish rims seem to have gone the way of the dodo anyway.

With Harrison you will breeze in 9 1/2 - 10". There have been a few Harrisons fitted with 12 1/2" rims on the rear. From measurements we took from our Harrison with Skyline rear, something like 315/35/17 was the widest tyre we could fit without modification, which is wider than most people want.

This is a Harrison built recently with 335/35/17 tyres.



And has stroked & supercharged LS1(or LS???).

[Aussie Mike]

Rim width isn't a problem for the modern double wishbone rear ends. It's just you have to run the rear suspension at it's full width as they can prove difficult to narrow. This means you end up with not a lot of dish on the rear wheels or even a positive offset where there's more rim on the inside than the outside.

I wasn't so keen on the look at first but it's grown on me. My rear rims are 11" wide and the tyres are 315/35/17 but it doesn't look like it because there's not a lot of dish on the rear rims.

I think this is the best pic I have to illustrate it. The dish on the rear wheels is the same as the front.



Cheers

[sambo]

Craig, with a bit of poking around I found some other pics of that blue monster... twin NOS bottles and one very unique interior! Is there a link to the member gallery on the QLD site? I couldn't find it. Which kit is it based on?

Cheers,
Paul

[Plums]

Here's my G-Force with Vintage Wheels in 17 x 8.5 with 235/45-17, and 17 x 10.5 with 315/35-17's...

[macloft]

I believe I have seen the car that Craig has posted and it is a beast supercharged and nitros.
What I can't understand is how is it going to pass engineering. The supercharger and nos bottles are non to subtle and the guys at the pits would be able to spot them easily.
Craig do you have any side shots of the car. When I saw it in the upholsterers my camera was flat. It appeared to have a skyline diff which (as you state) means a normal Harrison can fit those monster rear wheels.

[400TT]

Some more photos on our site.

http://www.cobracarclubqld.org.au/Ne...s/JoesNewCobra

It's definitely a Skyline rear.

It's got some Jap wheels on it, which are design to give a nice dish look with very little available offset. I forgot the name of these wheels off hand, will see if it comes to me.

[T.L.]

Plums,

That is exactly the type of look that I am after. Where did you get those Halibrands from?.

By the way, what colour is that, looks pretty good, even in the under cover light.

And Craig, that car looks like it can do some serious damage, and could even break loose with those rear hoops on. I also like the look of the twin roll bars, some else to add to the list of things that i am accumulating, great stuff guys.

My car will be mainly a sunday driver, but I will still want some poke under the hood, and its no good with straight line grunt but runs scared at the first corner, so it will have to handle well. I will get to stoppers soon enough I am sure, but the bigger the better in that department. What do most of the guys run, old Commodore/Falcon brakes or something more specialised like APC,......

TL

[T.L.]

Stiffy,

I will most probably be there on Thursday night, and look forward to talking to some of you guys.

TL

[T.L.]

Mike,

Still working out the forum thing and not sure who see's what, but I will be there this Thursday.

TL