How to tell Fe 427 from 460 bb. - Page 2

blykins · #21 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 04:00 PM

So I want to hear a more logical explanation on why you think all FE's are rod throwers.

What is it? The rod length? The stroke? The bore?

Since you are so wise and well-versed in automotive engineering, I want to hear it from your mouth.

And by the way, the FE did not replace the flathead. The Y block (292, 312, etc) came first. It's statements like that, that give you no credibility whatsoever.

Another by the way....nice username. It fits you perfectly.

Traveller · #22 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 04:01 PM

This has turned into the funniest thread I've read in ages!

gary osborne · #23 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 05:08 PM

392 Cobra,

I am holding back because I am a southern gentleman and this is a public (or is it pubic....I always forget) forum.

McDoonothingbutmaketrouble,

Then why don't you really really really leave? Really ! No...I mean it....Really ! Seriously

Bill Wells · #24 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 05:15 PM

Yepper McDoodoo and Gary O........as Anthony said :

"Another great thread, but it needs to go another 15 pages before it can be ranked with some of the best."

So , keep em coming - my popcorn is popping .

Bill, SPF powered by a Briggs and Stratton (bored ) with an old Y Block 312 in my 57 Bird and modified K code in my 65 Mustang GT 350 fakey dooh ...oops,there is that MCDOOH reference again .and, none of those engines are a big deal . dang it . however, I once had a boat tied up to a buoy in the bay that was tethered to a FE - as one already said , a worthy anchor . LOL .

Great Asp · #25 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 06:22 PM

OP, the Head Bolt Stands are what I always see first. The FE has no raised head bolt stand, and the head bolt stands for a 385 series heads are raised.

FE Heads:

460 heads:

The other post above about the intake under the valve covers is also correct.

McD00 · #26 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 06:36 PM

[quote=Anthony;876149]Mc Doo-Doo, you know you wanted to throw this thread off track, that's what makes it fun. But I can see you must be one of those $ucking lawyers with your half truth's, or at least a lawyer want-a-be.

QUOTE]

I can't beleive you just started a personal attack on all the fine upstanding lawyers here with your profantity.

I'm not a lawyer but I won't put up with your defaming comments. A apology is in order I think.....

McVette

McD00 · #27 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary osborne

392 Cobra,

I am holding back because I am a southern gentleman and this is a public (or is it pubic....I always forget) forum.

McDoonothingbutmaketrouble,

Then why don't you really really really leave? Really ! No...I mean it....Really ! Seriously

I don't know you Mr. Osborne but you seem to have a hard-on for me.

You poor pathetic old man just pounding on your keyboaord....get a life. I never attacked anyone other than giving my opinion on FE engines and now I get treated like this....

I won't stup to your level.....

McVette

Great Asp · #28 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 06:46 PM

Please take it to another thread, or send PM's.

You guys are ruining the OP's thread about an engine question.

Keep the threads on topic please.

Do it for me, please.

Eric

MEATMASTER · #29 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 07:35 PM

Accoriding to this McDoo character, if you bought one of them thar rod throwers, you might want to get a polished blow proof engine block along with your blowproof bellhousing. They sound dangerous to anyone standing within a 100 foot radius of one of them Idling F_orced E_xtraction units in the area. Scaree.

MEATMASTER ...for Vice President! and why not, I'm hot too?

computerworks · #30 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 08:17 PM

A few points...

#1 - If you can't stay reasonably on topic, here or anywhere...just don't post.

#2 - There is an unwritten, but widely understood rule about respecting the Regional Forums... this is the Australian Cobra Club Forum...unless you have relevant info to add to the originator's question, why are you here if you are not in Oz?

Apologies to Ozvenom for the debris on your thread.

thanks
ron
ClubCobra Moderator

gary osborne · #31 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 10:02 PM

Mr Puterworks,

I am sincerely sorry and so count me as taken deservingly to the wood shed. I did not even notice that this was from down under not that I know how that really matters. I just know this McDoo character / pot stirrer will take a cheap shot at anyone with a BB. I noticed that he had responded and when I looked at his remarks found that I was right yet again. We have a long standing somewhat tongue in cheek war going on that will probably end when the Arabs embrace Isreal and pigs fly.

Traveller · #32 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 10:10 PM

He obviously has block envy. :lol:

boxhead · #33 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 10:26 PM

I thought anything painted "ocean blue" was classed as a boat anchor?

Don · #34 (**permalink**) 09-04-2008, 10:28 AM

The book I had mentioned in an earlier reply regarding Ford engines, from the 221 to 460, excellent:

http://www.cartechbooks.com/vstore/s..._ID=2933&DID=6

Table of Contents:

http://www.cartechbooks.com/vstore/s...6&chapter=4287

mr0077 · #35 (**permalink**) 09-04-2008, 11:05 AM

With some of the other comments, I'm surprised we haven't heard something like "Well, the one that corners like a brick has the 460 in it" from an FE owner, and then a reply from a BB owner, "And the one that accelerates like a brick has the FE in it"...

Seriously, the heads on the 460 are much wider than the FE, the valve cover is on both the head and the intake on the FE, and the raised head bolt pads on the 460 are some quick identifiers...

McDoo · #36 (**permalink**) 09-04-2008, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary osborne

Mr Puterworks,

I am sincerely sorry and so count me as taken deservingly to the wood shed. I did not even notice that this was from down under not that I know how that really matters. I just know this McDoo character / pot stirrer will take a cheap shot at anyone with a BB. I noticed that he had responded and when I looked at his remarks found that I was right yet again. We have a long standing somewhat tongue in cheek war going on that will probably end when the Arabs embrace Isreal and pigs fly.

Gary you dumbass........This is me you blockhead...I don't even know this other imposter McDoo but I think I have a handle on him. You need to stay away from the wine after a hard day at work. As you know, when I post stuff about BB's none of it is a cheap shot and I always back it up with the history of these fine cars and I can't help it if history doesn't back you up.

Jamo I hope you don't mind but I needed to put my little buddy back in order...

McDoo The REAL one

OZVENOM · #37 (**permalink**) 09-04-2008, 04:57 PM

well guys i see 2 Mc doo and Mc d00 very cleaver to use a zero
But it does cause confusion or was that the intention.
I love all things cobra aka Shelby unfortunatly we are not blessed with lots of bb cobras here in oz . I really love the sound of them . A forum is an expressive medium but you have to keep it on subject and not get personal you all know that .
I am greatfull for the HELPFULL infomation i have got from some of you and have enjoyed your expression session on the good and bad of FE engines . Every engine has its limits you have to respect that .It was a bad ass engine in its day and its still a bad ass engine today .
They were never meant to rev just make heaps of torque from CI if you want revs then its a small block . Modern engine design has allowed big blocks to be reved hard which has given the false perception that all of them will rev and thus we have failures which is then interpreted as a bad engine design.

I would love more than anything to have a big block cobra . but we are limited in what we can do and have so i have taken a different route which some of you will be dissused with i use an all alloy 242 ci lexus v8 turbo charged it makes bb torque and revs like a sb and with the right exhaust sounds very much like a bb.
Now don't start up again of why i am wrong it just what we have to do to keep up with $15 k + windsors .
A replacement engine cost me $750 and is as fresh as the day it rolled of the line. I have blown up a couple of them but i dont blame the engine i blame me for not tuning it right.
Thanks Again for you infomation and banter.
oz.

McD00 · #38 (**permalink**) 09-04-2008, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McDoo

Gary you dumbass........This is me you blockhead...I don't even know this other imposter McDoo but I think I have a handle on him. You need to stay away from the wine after a hard day at work. As you know, when I post stuff about BB's none of it is a cheap shot and I always back it up with the history of these fine cars and I can't help it if history doesn't back you up.

Jamo I hope you don't mind but I needed to put my little buddy back in order...

McDoo The REAL one

What the hell?! Is this some sort of a sick joke? I'm not going there, I'm going to keep this thread on topic. I can't believe I keep getting draggged into th is crap.

Gary, I have no idea who McDoo is, but I'm the real McD00. Ask me who picked up the tab in Deadwood? <-clue Ask me history on cobras and Carrol himself.

McD00, The ONLY one

lineslinger · #39 (**permalink**) 09-04-2008, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McD00

What the hell?! Is this some sort of a sick joke? I'm not going there, I'm going to keep this thread on topic. I can't believe I keep getting draggged into th is crap.

Gary, I have no idea who McDoo is, but I'm the real McD00. Ask me who picked up the tab in Deadwood? <-clue Ask me history on cobras and Carrol himself.

McD00, The ONLY one

Will the real Sybil please stand up?

computerworks · #40 (**permalink**) 09-04-2008, 08:03 PM

If there is one more post from any McD** on this thread, they all will have two weeks off to ponder how to use PM's to talk offline and not to use posts to sideways-talk thru a thread.

I just expanded my Buddy List.

...slowly getting pissed, and that's not real good.

thanks

ron
ClubCobra Moderator