The POOL ROOM

[Aussie Mike]

Originally Posted by sambo

And really, with all that is going on in the world do we really need faster downloads? This whole NBN debate has been a red herring. It ranks about 15th on the list of essential services that are lacking in this country, I don't care what they say about opening up business to eCommerce etc etc. It's a massive waste of money and resources. Better to spend the money fitting rainwater tanks and plumbing gray water in metropolitan homes, rather than building coal burning desal plants and laying pipelines that draw water from the Murray Darling.

-- End Rant

You don't know what are you talking about!!!??? High speed broadband to the home has to be one of the highest priorities at the moment. What are all these recently unemployed folks going to do in the ecconomic crisis. They'll need to be at home high speed surfing for porn, watching video on demand movies and making cheap phone calls.

I hope you can detect my sarcasm...

[sambo]

Mike - correct. Now if only Jeff was PM... he'd sort this mess out!

[Rebel1]

Mike, you are certainly correct that triple play (your words) is the way of the future. As to when it will happen, or where it sits in the priority queue is debatable.

I'm sure this whole NBN issue was/is motivated by frustration of the government with Telstra and it's monopoly on telecommunications, It's lack of investment to country areas, and total lack of investment/maintenance of the existing copper.

I live in an older established suburb. The copper in our street is at capacity, every line is duplex. When it rains the phones go out. The exchange has only recently had a telstra DSLAM installed and it is only from telstra one can get ADSL2 and it is priced accordingly. What the NBN announcment has done is delay the installation by an alternate ISP to install their own DSLAM.

Sambo, you comments regarding water is a state issue. Up until the last 12 months we also had a serious water supply issue. The State introduced very serious water restrictions, subsidised water tank installation, a water transfer pipeline interconnecting the various dams so water could be transferred from an overflowing dam to a dams at low levels and has built a desal plant.

The largest single improvement to our water shortage was the subsidized water tanks. My home now has 5000Ltrs of tank water plumbed into the toilets and laundry. Our usage of town water has decreased considerably and many, many thousands of residents have the same.

More to follow .......

[Rebel1]

Sambo, Re the Murray. I don't really believe the problem has a long term solution. Leastwise the perceived problem as it stands. That being water for irrigation, recreation and for potable usage.

There seems in every argument that the "food bowl of Australia" is at risk and we'll all end up starving from lack of fruit and vegies. If these crops are so water dependent why not just relocate the "food bowl of Australia" to somewhere where there is abundant water .... Like North Queensland. Heaps of land ... doing bugga all ... and heaps of water.

Problem solved, and no $billion expenditure from the feds or states.

[sambo]

Originally Posted by Rebel1

If these crops are so water dependent why not just relocate the "food bowl of Australia" to somewhere where there is abundant water .... Like North Queensland. Heaps of land ... doing bugga all ... and heaps of water.

But right now the food bowl is nicely positioned between the 2 biggest cities in the country and "food miles" is another consideration. Plus, you rednecks would no doubt water it all down before sending to us, just like your beer.

Edit: Re subsidised water tanks, water restrictions, etc, while I agree it IS up to the states to put plans into action, public apathy isn't doing us any favours - peolpe are happy to whinge but nobody takes an interest in driving the change. There's very little pressure on our state government down here to do anything effective... the last bloke flew around in choppers all day and the current one just wants to build pyramids! So how do you get them to listen?

[Rebel1]

Oi, we don't water our beer. It is the only true quality ale worth drinking.

As to the two biggest cities and food miles. Lets say the feds elect to amortize all the save the Murray cost to every bit of fruit grown in the place. Every grape, every bottle of wine, even cob of corn etc....what would it cost?....you'd never be able to afford it.

Who cares about the two largest cities in Australia?. They are both bankrupt as are the States they exist. They (NSW and VIC) have sold all their assets, have not maintained their own infrastructure to a required level and exist simple on dwindling cash flow and are dependent on a disproportional share of federal revenue.

Frankly, I believe we are almost at a time where some very disturbing but essential decisions need to be made. We cannot continue to exist on an outdated government/social model while we move to more challenging times.

Duplicity in Government will have to stop....cant afford it....State Governments will have to go .... local councils with more responsibility.
Feds to pick up education/health/water/transport. They have picked up a huge part of the funding already.

You cant have the water rights of the Murray sold off by the state Governments on either bank and then want the rest of Australia to bail the area out. Not On !.

I've got a whole list of these ideas ... aren't you lucky I'm not the PM.

[Rebel1]

Sambo, have a look at the reduction of water use in SE Qld.

Now using on average less than half that of 2004.



Our Dams are at an average of 59% full now so we have around 10 years supply at current usage levels.

[Tatsushige]

G’day Guys,

A little help is needed please, I have decided to can the 25th Anniversary Countach idea as there is just too many problems in building the cars and getting them in to Japan to sell, so I am just going to get myself a Diablo Roadster from DC Supercars in the UK

Yellow DC SuperCars Diablo Roadster

The Chassis cost about £3870.00 and the Bodykit is £5,840.00 to complete the build I have been told about £30,000 to about £45,000

I have spoken to 3 guys that have built the Diablos from DC and was informed that they are a easy build and pass the SVA test without any problems

I want to go with the colour of the Diablo Kit below but have no idea as to its name,

Some say it is call DARK CHERRY PEARL and others have said BLACK CHERRY PEARL if anyone has a idea to what the colour is called please PM .


Thanks

[Cameron Parsons]

Les,

with the water flowing around the SE today, it's seems the medium term is taken care of....

The people in our house recon it's time to start on the Ark

Cameron

[Rebel1]

Cameron, The above pic of the water usage was for Sambo's benefit as to what can happen to a complacent population when threatened with recycled sewage.

Public apathy goes right out the window....or is it right down the toot.

As to the latest wet .... Bluddy water everywhere. Both Somerset and the Pine are overflowing and Wivenhoe filling fast.

Gold Coast is getting a pasting as I type with winds up to 100Kph. One of the Major problems is stuff ( outdoor furniture/barbeques etc) being blown off high rises and landing on top of tourists.

Could only happen at the gold coast.

[Cameron Parsons]

I've heard of throwing a Shrimp on the Barbie, but throwing a Barbie on the shrimp...

Uniquely Australian

I am just hoping the water stays on the outside of our house!!!

Cameron

[Rebel1]

Originally Posted by Cameron Parsons

I am just hoping the water stays on the outside of our house!!!

Cameron

Worth checking mate ... serious amounts of water getting into everywhere.

My neighbour had a river flow in his back door .. thru the house and out his front door.

When the silly bugga built his pool he paved a huge outdoor entertaining area ... but didn't put in any drains. The pool overflowed and that, together with water runoff from the high side of his house had nowhere to go.... except thru the house.

These events sure do test the quality of landscaping.

[Rob. Smith]

Originally Posted by Tatsushige

G’day Guys,

A little help is needed please, I have decided to can the 25th Anniversary Countach idea as there is just too many problems in building the cars and getting them in to Japan to sell, so I am just going to get myself a Diablo Roadster from DC Supercars in the UK

Yellow DC SuperCars Diablo Roadster

The Chassis cost about £3870.00 and the Bodykit is £5,840.00 to complete the build I have been told about £30,000 to about £45,000

I have spoken to 3 guys that have built the Diablos from DC and was informed that they are a easy build and pass the SVA test without any problems

I want to go with the colour of the Diablo Kit below but have no idea as to its name,

Some say it is call DARK CHERRY PEARL and others have said BLACK CHERRY PEARL if anyone has a idea to what the colour is called please PM .


Thanks

G'Day, Just a suggestion...the paint looks like candy apple. This stuff is very nice but scratch it and the whole car has to be repainted. The paint is very well described by it's name. A toffey apple or candy apple is simply an apple coated with a clear layer of toffey. The paint works the same. There is a base coat of silver or gold then the transparent tint goes over top. Extra layers of tint make the colour darker. If it's damaged it's near impossible to match because you can't blend in the colour...it would make the rest of the panel darker. If it isn't candy apple...try House Of Colour.. they sell a very nice colour chart book. It's a bit pricey but what cost is perfection ?
Smithy

[Merv and Sharon]

And at the Sunshine Coast (what do you call a fine day at the Sunshine Coast? Monday!) it is sunny - or was before sunset. Most rain in SE Qld for almost 100 years they say. Now which politician can we blame?

Merv

[Krait]

I'm starting to wonder about our decision return to the Gold Coast. It's done nothing but rain since

That said it's rained in Riyadh a few times lately though not quite to the same extent

Cheers

[Rebel1]

Originally Posted by Merv and Sharon

And at the Sunshine Coast (what do you call a fine day at the Sunshine Coast? Monday!) it is sunny - or was before sunset. Most rain in SE Qld for almost 100 years they say. Now which politician can we blame?

Merv

Now hang on Uncle Merv!.

Last I heard about the Sunny Coast was that the Northern tip of Bribie was gonna implode and expose parts hitherto never been exposed to the ravages of the ocean.

Me thinks a rainy deluge more preferable than the ocean wandering thru my lounge room.

And, I have recently learned that Noosa beach has departed the scene and can be found in PNG.

Mind you, I do prefer the Sunny Coast to beaches further south where road signs are written in both English and Japanese and where the rich folks in high rise dump their rubbish on the tourists.

[Cameron Parsons]

We did a lot of extensive reno's on the 130+ yr old farmhouse, including a big paved pool area. fortunately it all drains to the river. Now if the river comes up to meet us, then I'll be worried..... but it would need to come up 17 mtrs for that to happen

Cameron

[Rebel1]

What river is that Cameron?. Coomera? Logan?

[Rebel1]

They are all on the same page anyways Cameron .... check the heights yourself.

http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/wrap_fwo.pl?IDQ60285.html

Check out the Logan R at Maclean Bridge.

[Cameron Parsons]

Coomera.....

Thanks for the link. I'll send it to the insurance Co in anticipation

Cameron