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Old 02-25-2009, 01:24 AM
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Paul,

I use the tonneau most of all. Whenever I leave the car, the tonneau goes on. Saves the leather, and anything else that is typically rolling around the floor. Those black seats get damn hot in the sun.

As for the 18's I don't have any decent pics. I will however be competing in the Clipsal rally in a few weeks and they will be on the car. I'm thinking of doing a blog for the event, just for fun, I'll keep you posted. You should have come over for it you know... just the place to stretch that mighty engine of yours..

Merv, Wazza (QLD Pres) made a hard top for his Harrison, and did a really nice job of fit and finish. I know there was a lot of faffing around to get it just right, but in the end it was and looked great. Maybe he can chime in with advice.

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Old 02-25-2009, 02:11 AM
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There are several trimmers I can recommend to you and some have done many cobra's in Melbourne. The guy (Chris O'Shea - Moorabbin) I used had a lot of experience and a good reputation as a trimmer, but he had not done a cobra before (So I took a bit of a chance and made sure he took his time) My roof turned out excellent and am very happy with it. It has been used on a number of occasions even in the current climate. You will be surprised that it can be fine in Melbourne but head down the coast or somewhere and if you get caught with rain you can simply put the roof on. I have made my own bags for the roof, side curtains and roof bows that pack neatly in the boot.

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Thanks for the info Tony will chat to you further about it at the next meeting.

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Old 02-25-2009, 02:42 AM
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fyi...I did a quick Google search on tonneau fasteners and came across a pretty good looking black chrome fastener called a "Tennax" fastener on the following website http://www.eagleday.com/tefaforpo.html
Found a link to an Aussie source for Tenax http://www.classicfasteners.com.au/Tenax.htm

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Old 02-25-2009, 02:53 AM
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the option tick box is on the right side of the cheque book, just above your signature

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Bloody SABB. It's missing off their TT form.

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Old 02-25-2009, 04:23 AM
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Thanks Cameron. I think Warren's old car was a DRB. His new one however...

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The MB cloth was usually a Haartz product. They can be vinyl or cloth based. Their many fabrics are shown at: http://www.haartz.com/en/#

Not sure of the Australian agent but any good trimmer should know.

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That Aussie source of Tenax in SA doesn't seem to carry the black version of those fittings. I too like the change from just using the plated variety.

Anyone know if the we can get the black option?

And I presume it would be a case over time that the black gets rubbed / scratched off over time. Has anyone experienced this?

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Hi Merv,

I saw this roof at a recent NSW Cobra Club picnic and will be incorporating the idea into my soft top.

The rear window zips completely out of the soft top.

It is held in at the top by a heavy zip along its entire length which is attached to the inside rear edge of the soft top.

The bottom edges are fitted under two tenax clips on each side of the roof and also under the chromed teardrops.

The benefits of this idea is that it allows fresh air to circulate throughout the cabin when the soft top is erected, even when it's raining.

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Baz,

For what it's worth. I had a similar set up in a different car, and it sucked in all the exhaust fumes and dust. With the hood off, it was clean cobra motoring, but the top on and it was a vacuum cleaner.

I'd be trying to test something like that.

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Thanks Baz it looks very good.Could reduce 'ballooning'. But I can see where Cameron is coming from with a vacuum effect. Most MX5s had that detachable rear window as I recall.

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For what it's worth. I had a similar set up in a different car, and it sucked in all the exhaust fumes and dust. With the hood off, it was clean cobra motoring, but the top on and it was a vacuum cleaner.

I'd be trying to test something like that.

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Thanks for the info Cameron. I hadn't thought about the consequences as far as sucking everything back into the cab is concerned.

I'll be running side pipes, therefore I shouldn't be eating my exhaust fumes as would be the situation with the pipes at the rear. Did your other car have side pipes or did they exit at the rear as in your present Cobra?

Now that you have mentioned it, the dust and dirt being sucked back into the car really disturbs me. That is one major aspect that I hadn't thought of. I have spend a small fortune on Connolly Leather for my interior trim and I don't want it stuffed up by having dirt and dust sucked into the cockpit caused by this new idea (Removable Rear Window) when the conventional fixed window would do the trick and cost a lot less to manufacture.

Yes. You've changed my mind. Fixed rear window with triangular side quarter windows it will be.

I am wrapped in the shape of Tony Crams soft top and will be using the same shape in my car. If Merv wants that effect and wishes to get away from the original Cobra look, where the soft top is lower at the back than in the middle, it is only a matter of extending the height of the rear upright bar by about 1 to 2 inches on the standard Bow Kit, which I obtained from Snakebite. This will give that squarer appearance in the top rear of the soft top.

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Baz,

my old car, with a much younger me at the wheel



Big 'ol live sidepipes.

I'm not saying don't do it, clearly it works for some cars, and the shape of the hood would have lot to do with the aero effects.

The good news is the leather you have in the car kept a few cows dry during the winter months, so it should hold up great to anything you throw at it. I have really good leather seats in the current car, they have been rained on and roundly abused. A good clean and leather conditioner and they look showroom...

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Here are a couple of Tonneaus - quite different!

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Here are a couple of Tonneaus - quite different!

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Love those centre spinners on the wheel

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I liked the way that the stripes continued down the tonneau!

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I have always wanted to do the stripes on my car through the soft top as well. I am not sure if it would be too much, I also like plain black so as not to take away from the paint colour.

When I (eventually) do my soft top and tonneau, I would like to have just one set of clips over the rear of the car. I have seen a few examples where a *frame* (with apropriate protection for the paint) is attached to the back of the car and the soft top attached to the frame. This could also serve as a mounting point for the tonneau if it sat high enough.

So much to consider ...

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The ony time you need a roof in the rain is when you actually have to stop for some reason!

I have used my roof quite a bit over the years,
lots of Nationals and long distance trips,
its only been the last year or two we Qlders have managed to dodge the rain on the way down..
I have also put it on for scorching hot days to avoid the Qld sun...
Tenax Fasteners are the go,strong and neat,
I used a fibreglass mould around the rear body to attach the roof to the car,
attached by tenax to the body and press studs to hold the roof to the moulding..
also the 1 piece DRb header rail to give some extra height and shape at the windscreen,
held at the ends with overcentre latches..
Never bothered with side windows etc,
just a drip gutter trimmed over the window openings
I used a double thickness Mercedes cloth I think,
the Heavier the better,

A light vinyl or cloth will flap more than a Quality purpose made heavy cloth.

Don at Snakebite also has all things softtop and good advice...

Annvid did my trim side of things..

Cameron, Heidelberg , AIR Conditioning,doesnt that cost horsepower?



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Cameron, Heidelberg , AIR Conditioning,doesnt that cost horsepower?
Of course, that's why they invented NOS....

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Thanks TuUF427 (Darren?). That is a good hood. I agree about the "drip gutter trimmed over the window openings" - sounds very sensible.

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Thanks TuUF427 (Darren?). That is a good hood. I agree about the "drip gutter trimmed over the window openings" - sounds very sensible.

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Hey Merv,

That's the famous and very TUF Peter Hancock....and that's also the same roof I'm going to have on the new car.

It's brilliant...

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