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[Baz]

Originally Posted by AC-460

This chev ford thing comes up all the time..... I reckon if shelby thought a chev engine was any good he would have put one in to start with..... Its like buying a ford car and putting a holden donk in it.....
My two bobs worth
Cheers Mark

Thanks for the idea Mark. My mates Ford is continually breaking down. Now I can let him know how he can obtain total reliability.

Baz

[AC-460]

Maybe you blokes with chev powered cobras should call them a corvace cause it sounds like thats what they are.......

Laugh
Cheers Mark

[Plums]

I'd be happy to call mine a Corvace..... considering it doesn't have one Ford part on it

[AC-460]

Originally Posted by Rebel1

And ...

It would appear there were a couple of chev powered AC Ace running around years before good ole Shel even thought of the cobra.

Called the CorVace .... see here.

CorVace Photos!

Hey barry hows your CORVACE coming along


We could go on forever .....
Cheers Mark

[boxhead]

Mines a Kobra

[sambo]

Mine's no more practical than a Mazda MX-5. Just a lot cooler.

[Merv and Sharon]

This again!?!

I guess that the Cobras that we make are on a continuum. At one end are the 'real' Cobras (does it really matter what Shelby could have or might have done.... he did use Ford and created the legend that we connect with in our various ways) and at the other end are the ones that have 4-cylinder motors (in the UK), BMW motors and one day maybe even diesels or electric motors when the fossil fuels run out. We position ourselves at various points along that continuum according to our desire for originality and preference. I have a Ford but I am sure that there will be times when I will think I should have gone for the GM product - if they survive the recession.

Merv

[Rob. Smith]

I really enjoyed reading this lot; a good laugh. Rember Carrol approached Chev first and they told him to pi$$ off. ha ha ha

[acecob]

LOL
It never fails does it
at least I got to laugh again today
keep it up gents

Schipps,
It only depends who you barrack for mate

[schipps]

Originally Posted by acecob

LOL
It never fails does it
at least I got to laugh again today
keep it up gents

Schipps,
It only depends who you barrack for mate

Mark,

I probably lean towards the chev more but the whole Ford/Chev argument that has happened elsewhere doesn't really matter in the whole scheme of things. We are after all, just building a replica .
Good to see this thread was taken in the spirit of fun in the way it was intended, for just a bit of a laugh.
Keep up the good work.


With my replica no one will know what powers it, well apart from these badges...


regards

Mick

[Rebel1]

There is however, one amongst us who clearly advertises his bias for a certain engine.

This person holds office of responsible position and has spent the national debt in displaying his preference.



SHAME SHAME SHAME

Such a nice car too, cept for the power plant.

[boxhead]

I wonder what side of the fence he is on?

Nah, in all honesty it is all in fun.
I love these cars no matter what engine is in them (Although I might struggle if there was something that was air cooled).

I have no shame in saying I would love a street car that was slabside and 289 powered with 4 down draught webbers.
I would even put a luggage rack on the boot lid and wear a tweed jacket with the leather patches on my elbows.
Egg crate grille, 2 pidly little tailpipes out the back, BRG in color, tan interior and wire wheels.

But if I had that I would still want my beer can motor Kobra for the fun days.

[Rebel1]

I'm with you boxhead, a nice 289 with downdrafts would be great...maybe even use wire wheels.

A mate and I were having this ford chev convo some time back. We both agreed that had ford developed the windsor as did chev with their small block, ie alloy block, good heads, better intakes etc., to comply with modern pollution requirments then they would have been much better off than useing the ohc mod engine range.

There is no doubt that the windsor is a great engine....just a shame that ford elected to not develop it further.

[Aussie Mike]

I don't think you could call the Gen3 an evolution of the earlier small block chevs. It was a clean sheet of paper. There's not one thing from the old motor that's common with the new motor. It's a push rod V8 is about as close as it gets.

I think Ford went with the mod motor thinking that common design could be used in a lot of different applications. Lop 2 cylinders off and you have a V6 etc, Use one cylinder head on a 4 cylinder block etc. I don't think these other applications have really taken off and development has stalled a bit.

They also designed it to be very short in length to suit Front Wheel Drive applications. Unfortunately this has limited their ability to build big cubic inches. They've made up for it by offering plenty of factory built forced induction options though.

I guess in an age of alternative energy and striving for fuel efficiency etc we should be thankful there are any V8s being developed by the Automakers.

Cheers

[Philm]

It has just got be be a Ford.

Thanks Les for bringing me into this, I do like to keep my preference of engine types to myself.

But you guys have got it all wrong, you don,t need water to cool an engine.

Phil

[pcoghlan]

As you say, each to their own. I run a Chevrolet 383 in my GD but have no issue with Fords.

If it sounds good and drives then what is the harm?!

To the earlier reply along the lines of 'if Carroll Shelby didn't put a Chevy in it...etc' lets not forget that he did approach GM first and got turned away. He then went to Ford. So all it would have taken was a slightly different meeting to turn this discussion on its head.

Paul

[martrogers]

I have traction control on my Cobra (not working at present due to no tone wheels on the front wheels).

I understand that this works by braking the slipping rear wheel as well as reducing the engine power if necessary. Is this correct and if so does it render a LSD irrelevant? I notice that the ABS valve module is 4 channel.

Also does TC result in better acceleration due to the tyres not slipping, or worse due to it being "conservative"?

Martin

[NASSTY]

I look at it this way, the windsor small block was designed in the fifties and lasted until the early '90s (Ford Aus stockpiled them to last until 2002). It's an old design that originally only produced somewhere I think between 100 to 150 hp at the fly. The standard block is good for somewhere b/w 500-600 hp as I understand it but with aftermarket parts.

Now fast forward to the modded V8's. Don't be too quick to draw a conclusion from them. Check out this youtube vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZZWoDweqJk

It's 10 mins long but worth the download. Apart from the twin turbos on this Ford GT the rest is completely stock and yet it produces over 1000 rwhp and 700footpounds of torque!!!!
WTF?!?!? All from a standard GT motor.

The only bad thing ford did was stop producing them!

[Rob. Smith]

I had a mate up in central queensland that had a flathead powered welder. Man when he struck an arc the sound of that flathead cracking the throttle and revving hard was the epitome of the true V8 sound. It had open pipes and just sounded so sweet. The Flathead V8 is still today one of the nicest sounding v8 engine noises around.
That's the original V8 and a FORD

[steeler]

I have both (Fence sitter)
The GM LS1 goes great, but the Ford 302 "Sounds" better.