Seriously stuck spinner wheels

[MOTORHEAD]

Chicagocat:
I have seen the KO adapters on BDR's installed on the wrong side of the car. Ck this by looking at the threads to verify proper rotation.
Also, the rear axle caps were a very tight press fit on some cars.(stub axle I.D. very rough) Had to drill/cut them out.
Exactly where in Fl are you ? Im in Sarasota and can help if you're fairly close.

Ted

[Karl Bebout]

"And if it's the American Hammer hammer they will re-cast it for you for a relatively small amount ($20, I think). "

Probably cost more for shipping than recasting. ??

Very true about the fumes, but I doubt that a one time, short stint of being around them, would be catastrophic. But what do I know.

[chicagocat]

Originally Posted by MOTORHEAD

Chicagocat:
I have seen the KO adapters on BDR's installed on the wrong side of the car. Ck this by looking at the threads to verify proper rotation.
Also, the rear axle caps were a very tight press fit on some cars.(stub axle I.D. very rough) Had to drill/cut them out.
Exactly where in Fl are you ? Im in Sarasota and can help if you're fairly close.

Ted

Thanks Ted,
I'm in Punta Gorda, so not very far from you. I'll send you a PM. We should get a beer sometime...
I did have a feeling that I should check the threads...I looked and they seem to be correct. Thanks for the advice on the rear axle caps, seems like I should leave them alone if possible.
Brendan

[kevins2]

I was reading up on reshaping my hammer and came across a thread on a Corvette forum. One guy suggested beating the hammer back into shape with a knock-off spinner

[Bob In Ct]

Had the same issue years ago. this worked for me.

Make sure by threads that you're going in the correct direction.

Lift the wheel off of the ground.

Heat the spinner with a hair dryer to as hot as you can get it.

Hit an ear with a lead hammer. Turn wheel 120 degrees, repeat, etc.

I did this for quite a while but eventually it turned.

Should you ever get it off, be sure to not over tighten when putting the wheel back on. All you need is very snug. Use an anti-seize.

Bob

[jimbo01]

The Shell Valley spinner tool is the bests way to get the wheel off. I modified mine to fit the Backdraft wheels. See my posting regarding Shell Valley spinner tool and you will see what I did to make it work with your wheels. You will be able to remove it with a simple socket wrench with no effort.

[jimbo01]

Forget the hammer. Lots of hard beating and braking the spinner. Use it for installing only.

[CobraDan]

Sarto Rocheleau -  CobraHalibrand type Spinners      If your Halibrand spinner looks like this one, the tool will fit.This tool applies equal force to all 3 ears of the spinner without distorting the spinner.     The tool drops onto the s

[hawk 325]

Another penetrating oil that I use is kroil, we use it in aerospace. It will actually creep up a bolt and it only needs a one millionth gap to penetrate.

[undy]

Originally Posted by chicagocat

Thanks Ted,
I'm in Punta Gorda, so not very far from you. I'll send you a PM. We should get a beer sometime...
I did have a feeling that I should check the threads...I looked and they seem to be correct. Thanks for the advice on the rear axle caps, seems like I should leave them alone if possible.
Brendan

I'm 8 blocks from Punta Gorda in Port Charlotte. I have my Cobra down here too. Let me know if you need an assist.

BTW... regularly go to Muscle Car City and Laishley Park events.

[spf645]

Originally Posted by kevins2

I was reading up on reshaping my hammer and came across a thread on a Corvette forum. One guy suggested beating the hammer back into shape with a knock-off spinner

Read this again tonight,, needed another laugh, good one kevin..

[chicagocat]

Well, it's finally over. The spinner 9-1-1 tool and a lead hammer did the trick. Thanks for the very helpful suggestions.

Regarding whether the car needs to be off the ground as in the spinner 9-1-1 videos or not: The wheel simply needs to be able to move somewhat freely relative to the spinner. So I did not lift the car, but I also did not use chocks or put the car in gear or use the e-brake. That way the spinner 9-1-1 tool pulls the wheel toward the spinner and the car moves a little bit. Then the lead hammer finishes the job.

Thanks again.

[Detroit Bill]

Originally Posted by chicagocat

Well, it's finally over. The spinner 9-1-1 tool and a lead hammer did the trick. Thanks for the very helpful suggestions.

Regarding whether the car needs to be off the ground as in the spinner 9-1-1 videos or not: The wheel simply needs to be able to move somewhat freely relative to the spinner. So I did not lift the car, but I also did not use chocks or put the car in gear or use the e-brake. That way the spinner 9-1-1 tool pulls the wheel toward the spinner and the car moves a little bit. Then the lead hammer finishes the job.

Thanks again.

Make sure it does not happen again by using some kind of anti seize and taking the spinners off every 6 months. I switched to Cobra Valley anti seize. The only reason I did this is because my rims are black and the silver or copper anti seize makes a mess. I can't speak for its effectiveness yet but it does in fact not make a mess.

Cobra Valley's Chemicals - Spinner Eaze Anti-Seize

[super]

Hi Brendan

you did the job - congratulations!

One additional comment to the discussion about tightening and loosening only with a lead hammer.
For guys which do this all the time and very often, the lead hammer is for sure the easiest method. But not all of us do that work so often that they have the needed routine.

That was the reason for me to build my own tool.

I think not only loosening could be a big issue but also tightening. If you tighten the knock-offs too much you will also have big problems to loosen them again.

That's why I mad a tool to torque the spinners exactly ... and to loosen them later again.

Here are some photos to it ( I already posted them this march ):
new home-made tool works perfect - Club Cobra Photo Gallery
new tool fits perfect onto the knock-offs - Club Cobra Photo Gallery
Head for my new home-made knock-off tool - Club Cobra Photo Gallery

The big advantage of my tool is, that all three spinner arms are used. The risk to overload and damage one single arm is really small.

In the meantime I realized, that another guy in the US is selling a similar tool to mine:
PhotoPost Classifieds - Knock off spinner socket - Powered by PhotoPost Classifieds

Possible this tool could also be interesting for you to torque the spinners correctly in the future.
(I torque them with 300Nm with good experience)

(I hope you understand what I would say, despite my bad English)

Cheers
Werner
(Bavaria/Germany)

[jimbo01]

Nice tool Cobra Dan, will now work on the Backdraft cars. Cannot remove the rear hub cap. Might be great for others, just not Backdraft.

[razerwire]

I now use white lithium grease instead of never seize because it does not build up as bad, way less mess, excess wipe's off easy, used for 20 years or so with no problems except when I tried to take one wheel off hitting the spinner the wrong way? lol I fold towel and place on wheel when hitting in case I get a glancing blow

[66gtk]

Just used the 911 Spinner Tool on a 20 year old car with spinners/wheels that have never been off since built. Paired with my ratchet wrench it was a piece of cake. This tool is amazing - highly recommended.

[cbreez]

These "tools" have been around for many years. Imagine a 16" wide deep dish wheel on the RR of a sprint car. You can't use a hammer.