Club Cobra Gas-N Exhaust  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Manufacturers, Engine Builders, tools, and parts. > BackDraft Racing ---

MMG Superformance
Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
Keith Craft Racing
MMG Superformance
November 2024
S M T W T F S
          1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30

Kirkham Motorsports

Like Tree1Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 07-29-2017, 01:17 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Lake Mary, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing, Roush 427R, T56
Posts: 65
Not Ranked     
Default Limited Slip Diff on T56 Transmission

I'm looking to upgrade my current rear end to a limited slip. What ratio and lock % should I go with? I'm running a T56 transmission.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 07-29-2017, 01:28 PM
Cashburn's Avatar
Backdraft Racing Dealer
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven, CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
Posts: 5,119
Not Ranked     
Default

Which T-56 do you have?
__________________
IT'S NOT REAL. IT'S UNREAL.
VINTAGE MOTORSPORTS
888.427.1965 | www.vintagemotorsports.com
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 07-29-2017, 01:33 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Lake Mary, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing, Roush 427R, T56
Posts: 65
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn View Post
Which T-56 do you have?
Tremec T56. According to my build sheet. I bought the car used with a couple thousand miles.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 07-29-2017, 03:24 PM
Grey 65's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Haslet, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: BDR #888, Keith Craft 408
Posts: 344
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by REY 427 View Post
I'm looking to upgrade my current rear end to a limited slip. What ratio and lock % should I go with? I'm running a T56 transmission.
This would depend on what your end goal is. Top Speed, 1/4 mile, autocross, road racing, good mpg's, etc, etc...

Also it would be good to know what gear ratio you have in the car now and what the O.D. is of the rear tires.

With all of this information educated suggestions can be made. Without this information It would be like me asking you what my truck is worth without providing any information other than I have a truck for sale.
__________________
Kevin......

It isn't how fast your car can go
It is how fast your car can change direction

Home of Fake Snake Racing
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07-29-2017, 03:49 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,442
Not Ranked     
Default

On your current diff's aft cover is a metal tag. If it starts with an "S" you already have a LSD.
The number that follows is the Ratio. Useful for determining if you want to go up or down rpm wise on the new Diff.
http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimag...71/IMG0760.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 07-29-2017, 08:11 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: UCC 427GT, 461
Posts: 36
Not Ranked     
Default

I have a T56 in my cobra, the rear tires are 26" and the rear ratio is 3.25
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 07-29-2017, 08:44 PM
xb-60's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Adelaide, SA
Cobra Make, Engine: AP 289FIA 'English' spec.
Posts: 13,150
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by REY 427 View Post
I'm looking to upgrade my current rear end to a limited slip. What ratio and lock % should I go with? I'm running a T56 transmission.
Try punching figures into the Superformance gearing calculator:
Second Strike Gearing Calculator

That's a great way to settle on gear ratios / rear end ratios / tyre sizes

Cheers,
Glen
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 07-29-2017, 11:39 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Miami, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft / Coyote Motor
Posts: 36
Not Ranked     
Smile

If you have a T-56 that reverse is all the way to the right and up. What model is that. I know its not a T-56 magnum.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 07-30-2017, 09:43 AM
Cashburn's Avatar
Backdraft Racing Dealer
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven, CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
Posts: 5,119
Not Ranked     
Default

There are several different T-56 Magnums or is it a standard T-56?

Application Part # Engine Torque Capacity
(lb-ft.) Includes
Housing Clutch Type Speedo Type Spline Count
Input / Output Gear Ratios
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th Rev

GM TUET11009 LS 700 No Hyd Mech/Elec 26 / 31 2.66 1.78 1.30 1.00 .80 .63 2.90
GM TUET11012 LS 700 No Hyd Mech/Elec 26 / 31 2.97 2.10 1.46 1.00 .74 .50 2.90
Ford TUET11010 Modular 700 No Mech Mech/Elec 26 / 31 2.66 1.78 1.30 1.00 .80 .63 2.90
Ford TUET11011 Modular 700 No Mech Mech/Elec 26 / 31 2.97 2.10 1.46 1.00 .74 .50 2.90
__________________
IT'S NOT REAL. IT'S UNREAL.
VINTAGE MOTORSPORTS
888.427.1965 | www.vintagemotorsports.com
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 07-30-2017, 10:53 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Lake Mary, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing, Roush 427R, T56
Posts: 65
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spdbrake View Post
On your current diff's aft cover is a metal tag. If it starts with an "S" you already have a LSD.
The number that follows is the Ratio. Useful for determining if you want to go up or down rpm wise on the new Diff.
http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimag...71/IMG0760.jpg
Here's a picture of my diff tag. Not sure if you can make out all the numbers since it's been painted.
IMG_9134 by Rey Lorenzo, on Flickr
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 07-30-2017, 11:08 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,442
Not Ranked     
Default

Can't make out the numbers to the left. If you can take Scotchbrite and lightly scuff it to remove the sheen, then shine the flashlight from the right side at an oblique angle to show the relief. Turn off the flash on your camera.

Last edited by spdbrake; 07-30-2017 at 11:12 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 07-30-2017, 06:33 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Lake Mary, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing, Roush 427R, T56
Posts: 65
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spdbrake View Post
Can't make out the numbers to the left. If you can take Scotchbrite and lightly scuff it to remove the sheen, then shine the flashlight from the right side at an oblique angle to show the relief. Turn off the flash on your camera.
This is the best I could do. I know I don't have a limited slip. On hard launches it appears that only the passenger side tire is the one that spins, leaving one tire mark. Wish I knew which T56 Backdraft put in my car. Unfortunately I can't find any info in the build book.
IMG_9147 by Rey Lorenzo, on Flickr
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 07-30-2017, 06:55 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Lake Mary, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing, Roush 427R, T56
Posts: 65
Not Ranked     
Default

If Backdraft's website reflects what they put in the cars they build, I assume this is the transmission they put in mine.
https://www.backdraftparts.com/produ...26-spline.html
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 07-30-2017, 08:46 PM
Gaz64's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Brisbane, QLD
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 2,797
Not Ranked     
Default

Can you note the engine rpm in 4th gear at 60mph and then in 6th gear at the same speed?

If the engine rpm in 6th is half of 4th gear, drops from say 3000 rpm to 1500 rpm, you have a .50 6th gear.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 07-31-2017, 05:45 AM
mln385's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Cobra Make, Engine: BDR
Posts: 536
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by REY 427 View Post
Here's a picture of my diff tag. Not sure if you can make out all the numbers since it's been painted.
IMG_9134 by Rey Lorenzo, on Flickr

09 3 46 which should be an open differential with the standard 3:46 gear ratio.
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 07-31-2017, 05:51 AM
Grey 65's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Haslet, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: BDR #888, Keith Craft 408
Posts: 344
Not Ranked     
Default

I vote for 3.91 gears and 60% lock.....
__________________
Kevin......

It isn't how fast your car can go
It is how fast your car can change direction

Home of Fake Snake Racing
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 07-31-2017, 08:13 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Lake Mary, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing, Roush 427R, T56
Posts: 65
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mln385 View Post
09 3 46 which should be an open differential with the standard 3:46 gear ratio.
Thanks for clearing that up. I had a feeling that's what I was looking at.
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 07-31-2017, 08:16 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Lake Mary, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing, Roush 427R, T56
Posts: 65
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xb-60 View Post
Try punching figures into the Superformance gearing calculator:
Second Strike Gearing Calculator

That's a great way to settle on gear ratios / rear end ratios / tyre sizes

Cheers,
Glen
Thanks for pointing me to this website. I've played around with it for a bit and I think I'm leaning towards 3.91 gearing. This is the one I may be buying. Not sure if 25% lock would be fine or if I should go up to 40%.

BMW E36 3.91 LSD POSI DIFFERENTIAL LIMITED 325I M3 25 LOCK UP BACKDRAFT COBRA | eBay
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 07-31-2017, 08:22 AM
Cashburn's Avatar
Backdraft Racing Dealer
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven, CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
Posts: 5,119
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grey 65 View Post
I vote for 3.91 gears and 60% lock.....
I've been told 40% is the most you want on the street. But again, I was told this I have not directly experienced it.

3.73 works pretty good with the 6 speed. If it's the .8 .6 OD unit. But 3.91 is usable here too.
__________________
IT'S NOT REAL. IT'S UNREAL.
VINTAGE MOTORSPORTS
888.427.1965 | www.vintagemotorsports.com
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 07-31-2017, 09:10 AM
joyridin''s Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,695
Not Ranked     
Default

I have a 3.7 rear with a .54 ratio for 6th. It seems to be a great ration for both cruising through town and on the highway when you get it in 5th or 6th gear. 4th works great for city streets at between 35-45 mph.
Loftonm likes this.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink