While I was gone on vacation, my SPCN paperwork arrived in the mail. Just a few minutes ago I called the Smog Ref to make an appointment, and he did want some data off of the paperwork that I received in the mail from the DMV.
What surprised me was that I was able to get an appointment for this Friday (yup just 3 days from now!) I was expecting a couple of weeks... Looks like I'll be a few hours late to work on Friday - oh well
I heard about SB100 and thought that it was great since I could re-register my car as a 65 cobra instead of a 88 hence do away w/ the bi-annal smog checks. Did all of the jumping through hoops w/ CHp , DMV and Smog REF my result for all fo this is back to 88 year as it was before, now have to go back to DMV in Maripose,CA 30 miles from were I live and do battle w/ them. The problem is DMV people do not know what the hell they are doing and will not listen to you trying to explain the memo's they should follow.
Good fellows,Lee
Under SB100 your car is not supposed to be registered as a 1965, it is only smogged as a 1965. The SBCN program will not change anything else but the smog standards the car must adhere to. If you try to change the vehicle year on your registration you will have nothing but trouble.
ddimick is correct. SB 100 does not affect the year that the car is shown as on the title, only the year that it is smogged as. My title shows the car as a 2002 SPCNS. "1965" only shows up on the paperwork I have from the BAR referee, not on any DMV paperwork.
Jamo, I think you are correct about SB-100 being just for vehicles that have not been previously registered. Isn't SB-1578 the one that lets you re-register a previously registered or used vehicle as a special construction vehicle. I seem to recall that someone in the club did just that about 8 months ago and posted how they went about it. Until then I had thought that SB-1578 was just for used cars that were bought out of state but it seems they re-registered their car they had previously registered here in Calif. And the cars here that I have seen do show the year of manafacture on the title. They stick the smog exempt sticker on the car somewhere it isn't to obvious but can be seen.
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Ron...
Let me expound on this a little.
When I started the registration process on 12-27-01, I was just a few days prior to the sb100 taking effect.( I didn't know about sb100) The car was from Texas and there was no way it would pass the smog requirements for the year 2001. Even tho it had a clean title and pink.
After hearing about sb100 (sometime in March the next year) I tried to start over but the DMV would not allow me to use sb100 because of the date of my original application for registration.
As you can imagine, there are a lot of cars that are brought in from other States that cannot pass smog and we have no redress available to us to take the car back to the owner you purchased from and make him pay for the costs to bring it smog legal in Calif..( In Ca., the seller must provide you with smog cert's or you can demand your money to be refunded)
SB1578 addresses this gray area of hot rodding. I was not able to drive the car during the year 2002, but on 1-1-03 when sb1578 took effect, I was able to register the car as a 2001 spcn ( my pink slip states 1966 spcn, the 2001 is an internal code used used by the dmv to document the cars arrival into Cal.) The 1966 spcn is also the designation of the smog requirements for your car. (in my case, 1966 smog laws would be enforced)
All that was required was a short test at the testing facility and I was given the sticker and sent on my way.
I should mention that 1578 saved my bacon. I was either going to have to purchase another motor with a 196? code or change my residency to Oregon or Phoenix. As it turned out I am happily motoring around Sac. and looking forward to some great rides this summer.
Just did my BAR test last Monday. Went through with no problems. It was given the year 1965 and is exempt.
The DMV should call into Sacramento and get you the sequence number and then your certificate shows up a few days later. Mine took five or so days. The BAR guy needs to see the actual certificate, NOT A COPY.
It was rather funny to hear the Cobra with a radical idle on the smog machine and then its " here you go, it's exempt".
It was very easy.
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VIN tag and such
Turk
Glad to hear you are making it through the SB100 process. Fairfield CHP took the VIN # off the MSO issued by the kit company verified the VIN#, then made a small sheet metal tag that is to be rivetted to the frame of the car. The officer didn't have a drill or rivet gun so we agreed on location I promised to install the tag (which I did) and that was that. The officer was very interested in the car and was very helpful. I had my BAR inspection done at the Arco Arena Referee station in Sacramento. They did a great job but had problems with their printing machine (45 minutes on the phone with tech support). They then stuck the ugliest sticker you can imagine on the frame in the engine compartment. I guess the sticker is just another little gift from the state that brought us SB100. What's the latest on the registration process?
I can't believe I am still doing body work on my ride. I was having some problems with pin holes in the primer not filling right so we reshot the whole car with another heavy prime coat. I have just finished wet sanding it and have just filled about fifty pinholes. (200 less than the first prime coat). If I get a little time this coming week to wet sand the pin hole repairs it will go to paint. I am getting tired of body work and want to drive the damn thing, but I don't want anyone looking at the body and paint work and asking did you use Rustoleum?
Cobra Chuck
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I finally got that piece of paper from DMV. A Certified copy of my SB-100 Specially Constructed Vehicle Certificate of Sequence (SPCNS)
Mine happens to be 379.
What I don't understand is, my next appointment is with CHP this coming Wednesday. What VIN number are they going to attach to my car? DO they have the equipment to make some sort of a tag, and do they just make up a number based on the information I have provided them.
Many have said the process was easy. So far it has been, but I am trying to anticipate what is up ahead around the corner.
Just finished my whole process for registering. Got my plates today.
The CHP will issue you their own VIN if you want. I had one issued by Classic Roadster with my certificate of origin. The CHp called is something like a blue card or something like that. He urged me to use the one that was issued by my manufacturer.
It was very easy and they were all interested in my car. Actually quite fun.
Went to the BAR this morning for the smog test. It took more time to fill out the paperwork and to enter the data in the compooper than it did to run the actuall smog test.
And speaking of smog test, I'm now considered a "Gross Polluter"... As if that really matters, since my SPF is now exempt, but I thought it was funny to read that on the paperwork.
The referee at the BAR couldn't stop talking. He was even talking as I was backing of the garage! An instruction of Sequoia Institute stopped by and commented that this referee sees maybe a car a day - your tax dollars at work! Must be a lonely job...
A handfull of SI students came by and were really impressed with my SPF. It was fun to show it off to them - sure beats those hopped up Hondas!
My (hopefully) final appointment is with the DMV next week.
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Re: Almost done...
Randy
It sounds like smooth sailing from here on out. Your experience is similar to mine. Except for the paper work and having to agency hop the SB 100 operation was fairly painless. I have heard a few nightmare stories though. I think it really depends on each individual agency. Some are helpful and very interested (all mine were) or they can be a pain in the ass.
Chuck
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Originally posted by Randy Rosenberg
Went to the BAR this morning for the smog test. It took more time to fill out the paperwork and to enter the data in the compooper than it did to run the actuall smog test.
And speaking of smog test, I'm now considered a "Gross Polluter"... As if that really matters, since my SPF is now exempt, but I thought it was funny to read that on the paperwork.
The referee at the BAR couldn't stop talking. He was even talking as I was backing of the garage! An instruction of Sequoia Institute stopped by and commented that this referee sees maybe a car a day - your tax dollars at work! Must be a lonely job...
A handfull of SI students came by and were really impressed with my SPF. It was fun to show it off to them - sure beats those hopped up Hondas!
My (hopefully) final appointment is with the DMV next week.
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As of 8:00 a.m. on Thursday, June 12, 2003, 6 of 500 sequence certificates were unassigned and available.
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DMV also rearranged the page and added the following note. Wonder what prompted it?
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NOTE: New vehicles purchased as a complete vehicle (completely assembled kits or replica vehicles) are not considered specially constructed.
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Actually, as of the close of business today, the DMV site says that all 500 numbers for 2003 have been assigned. This could get interesting for future registrants in that now I'm sure there will be a rush the first week of January next year to get 2004 numbers by everyone who'll have been waiting between now and 12/31/2003. Does this mean that cars legitimately registered in California under SB100 and/or SB1578 will go up in value?
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