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07-15-2003, 06:59 PM
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Turk...
When I first went to the DMV and paid my fees (A month before I picked up my SPF in Reno), I received my temporary registration. That was last October. I farted around so much, and then came income tax season (I’m a professional income tax preparer), that I didn’t get my sequence number until late April of this year. During that time, I just kept on going back to the DMV every time the temp registration ran out, and got a new one. No questions asked. This was at the Vallejo office.
Lew
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07-16-2003, 08:09 AM
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Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Bay Area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: What Cobra?
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hmmmm.
TURK
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07-16-2003, 09:09 AM
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I also got my temp registration before by SB100 sequence number. The DMV had the process all screwed up for me so I had to get the temp registration, visit the CHP, then back to the DMV for the SB100 number.
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07-16-2003, 11:34 AM
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: SF, Bay Area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF832, 466cid
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Check this link out
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/01-02/...chaptered.html
I know it is not SB100 but it is SB100 amended to strike the word "Initial Registration". There is wording, in sec 2) a, regarding the attempt to reg first time
without a seq number and the consequences. Don't know if this applies just an FYI.
curtis
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07-17-2003, 08:13 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Roseville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 427 Unique Roadster, FE by FE Specialties, 470hp, Top Loader, 3:31 Jag
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I clipped this from another thread. It pays to do it the right (legal) way.
http://ag.ca.gov/newsalerts/2003/03-087.htm
Attorney General Lockyer Files Charges in Massive Vehicle Registration Fraud Case
False Title and Registration Documents Cost California Millions in Lost Tax Revenues
July 16, 2003
03-087
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
(916) 324-5500
(SACRAMENTO) – Attorney General Bill Lockyer today announced he has filed criminal charges against an Alabama man accused of providing fraudulent title and registration documents that are believed to have cost California more than $1 million in tax revenues and license fees over the past two years, and as much as $14 million since 1975.
"This scam operation provided false information that low-balled the value of antique, classic and specialty cars, allowing the owners to avoid paying millions of dollars in taxes and vehicle registration fees," Lockyer said. "Our joint investigation leads us to suspect between 20,000 and 70,000 vehicles have been fraudulently registered in California through similar schemes. At a time when the state is facing such a severe budget crisis, scams like this are especially egregious and will be prosecuted.
read the complete release at "http://ag.ca.gov/newsalerts/2003/03-087.htm
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07-17-2003, 09:11 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: SF Bay Area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #1019
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Quote:
Originally posted by pgermond
I clipped this from another thread. It pays to do it the right (legal) way...
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Yo! Before SB100 there was no other way to title a replica with a new engine in California. With advent of SB100, there is no need to use a "titling company".
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07-17-2003, 10:10 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Roseville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 427 Unique Roadster, FE by FE Specialties, 470hp, Top Loader, 3:31 Jag
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You would think so, but w/only 500 available each year you can bet folks will continue to use work arounds when the 500 are exhausted.
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07-17-2003, 11:12 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: 397 Camellia Way, Vacaville, CA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Lone Star Classics, LS 427, 302 cid @ 370 HP, T5 and 8.8" rear end, 99.99% complete
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Quote:
Originally posted by Randy Rosenberg
Yo! Before SB100 there was no other way to title a replica with a new engine in California. With advent of SB100, there is no need to use a "titling company".
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Randy and All:
You are absolutely right. So now that California is broke they are looking for some defenseless small businessman to screw. This is so typical of the current California regime's mentallity. The power crisis, the economy, and now hot rodding. Let's see how long it takes Davis and his goons to really screw the hod rod scene up. With Davis's record 30-90 days we ought have a bonified mess. I wonder why 53% of California want's to recall him. Keep in mind that only 22% of California is Republican.
I guess the state has really cleaned up. They have limited hot rod building to 500 rods a year. I paid about $1400 for my SB 100 adventure. Lets see $1400X500 rods=$700,000. $700K is really going to make a big dent in the black hole called the state budget. It will pay the direct and indirect cost for about 4 state employees.
Cobra Chuck
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07-18-2003, 12:04 AM
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They probably spent a few millions in the investigative effort to show some guy from Titles Unlimited in handcuffs on Channell 13 tonight during 6 O'Clock News.
TURK
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07-18-2003, 09:20 AM
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It appears they are going after people who illegally stated the value of their vehicles to the DMV and didn't pay what they should have in taxes and registration fees. I'm fine with that. Go get 'em.
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07-19-2003, 12:30 AM
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Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Honolulu,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4141
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But wait...there's more!
There going after every Cobra registered as a 1965, unless it is an original. You gotta love California. There probably looking at a special tax on all pre-1970 vehicles to raise some extra cash, so they can reduce our huge debts thanks to Grey Poop-on Davis.
- Bill -
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07-20-2003, 10:26 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: 397 Camellia Way, Vacaville, CA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Lone Star Classics, LS 427, 302 cid @ 370 HP, T5 and 8.8" rear end, 99.99% complete
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Originally posted by Bill Kesner
But wait...there's more!
There going after every Cobra registered as a 1965, unless it is an original. You gotta love California. There probably looking at a special tax on all pre-1970 vehicles to raise some extra cash, so they can reduce our huge debts thanks to Grey Poop-on Davis.
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Bill and All
What do you think about all of 32 high boys, bucket Ts, 53 Corvettes kits that have been built and title washed over the last 20 years. Let's face it California has turned it back on hot rodding BIG TIME! We need to send a message to Sacramento that hot rodders vote and that these efforts will cost politicians their jobs.
Chuck
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07-20-2003, 10:33 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: 397 Camellia Way, Vacaville, CA,
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To All
The state has come up with amnesty "Programs" for every other imagined "PROBLEM" in the state why not title washed autos. Particularly since the state did not offer any type of relief or work around such as SB 100. Allowing title washing to go on for 20 years and then suddenly deciding the state was going to prosicute post SB 100 registrations is about as screwed up as everything else the state has done in the last 4 years.
Chuck
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07-20-2003, 10:35 AM
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In some states citizens have converged on their Capitol for many reasons.
Million Man March, repeal of helmet Laws, Low farm prices, Tobaco Subsidy, Surplus Milk....You name it.
Just sitting here minding my own bidness....I wonder how many Hot Rodders could be organized to to show up in Sacramento and tie up traffic for a couple of days....
Just wondering.
TURK
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07-20-2003, 10:47 AM
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They have amnesty for illegal aliens, and I get taxed up the gazoo to provide social services for them, including education, health care what have you. As a tax payer I now have to pay more because I may have skirted the law.
I suppose if I completely broke the law, I may be forgiven.
Rapists, murderers, gang bangers walk freely among us, while we sweat to see which one of us will receive the dreaded phone call or the visit from the state scrutinizing the registration of our cars.
California, got to love it!
TURK
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07-20-2003, 12:30 PM
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Location: taxmehard,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Compomotive. 351w, close ratio four speed, live axle, 4wdb.
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As a corrections officer, I found that the inmate had more rights then I did. What an awakening that was!!
As a taxpayer I find that every special interest group and all politicians have the right to influence and pass bills that result in my paying ever increasing taxes and costs.
Turk...
You hit the nail on the head! To survive in our field we do have to commit the time and effort ...every one of us that drive some sort of hot rod....to a show of unity at the State capitol. There is strength in numbers and if we don't, the hot rod will eventually, little by little, be phased off the road.
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07-20-2003, 04:23 PM
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"I guess the state has really cleaned up. They have limited hot rod building to 500 rods a year. I paid about $1400 for my SB 100 adventure. Lets see $1400X500 rods=$700,000. $700K is really going to make a big dent in the black hole called the state budget. It will pay the direct and indirect cost for about 4 state employees." [Cobra Chuck]
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IMHO, the real reason the state is taking this approach is to garner headlines for the next election cycle. The politicians don't truly care about running a deficit or fixing a deficit. They just care about getting elected - hence the shock, outrage, and other flatulance.
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07-20-2003, 05:35 PM
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Turk,
You are close in your approach. I think that if we became citizens of another country and then applied for help we could have anything we desire and the citizens of Calif. would have to pay for it. My taxes are ridiculous and I really hate knowing they are just wasted by some half wit politician.
Ron
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07-20-2003, 10:21 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: 397 Camellia Way, Vacaville, CA,
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Quote:
Originally posted by Turk
In some states citizens have converged on their Capitol for many reasons.
Million Man March, repeal of helmet Laws, Low farm prices, Tobaco Subsidy, Surplus Milk....You name it.
Just sitting here minding my own bidness....I wonder how many Hot Rodders could be organized to to show up in Sacramento and tie up traffic for a couple of days....
Just wondering.
TURK
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TURK and ALL
I'll show up when and where appointed. The only way things get changed is if a politician thinks his butt is on the line. I'll even propose a time and place. October 1, 2003. Make circles around the state capital (Sacramento). We will need to attract some news media. Before that we need to bombard are assemblymen and state senators with some email and snail mail.
Chuck
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07-20-2003, 10:34 PM
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Turk, You are a Gentleman of the World.
Ron61, The Mouse that Roared.
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