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12-09-2008, 06:22 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: VALLEY FORGE,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SUPERFORMANCE w DOUG MEYER ENGINE
Posts: 1,958
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"The street car is a Tuxeedo, cuff-links, and Vodka Martini shaken-not-stirred "Clean".
Thanks LudicrousSpeed! That is the Perfect analogy!!! I call it, " Kick ass Stealth" !
My car is as Sleeper as one can make Cobra, No stripes, no sidepipes, plain and simple. Plain jane looking motor with plenty of GO. Yates and whatknot parts
Most of the original cars didn't have sidepipes anyway.
In a croud of blue and white stripe cars my car looks unique, and most of the time it is faster too. LOL
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12-09-2008, 06:31 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4000; Shelby aluminum FE with 58mm IDAs
Posts: 1,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GUNNAR
Thanks everyone for your help. I have had two Kirkhams, a 427 and a 289 FIA, both with side pipes. I liked the look, but now that I am old, the noise and smell isn't as much fun as it used to be. I was surprised when the Shelby arrived without the holes for the side pipes and thought this would be a good opportunity to try an under the car exhaust. JBCOBRA, your car looks great, nice clean lines, and as others have pointed out, if I decide down the road I want side pipes, it is a lot easier to cut holes than to fill them in.
Thanks again.
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It seems a bit odd that a $100k CSX 4000 aluminum roller would arrive without holes for sidepipes and you would: a) not be aware of this, and b) accept the car if you didn't want it that way.
Perhaps I am missing something.
That said, I say you've got to go with the sidepipes on this car with the current setup you described.
In any event, I am sure it will be a great car.
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12-09-2008, 06:31 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Holderness, NH, US of A,
NH
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4772 old iron FE
Posts: 5,499
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Roll bar and hood scoop were options on the street car. I really like the curve of its belly that you see without side pipes.
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12-09-2008, 07:14 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Santa Rosa,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #633, 351w stroker, Tremec 3550
Posts: 410
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I vote for "under"
I'd opt for under car pipes for three reasons:
1. I've ruined & melted an expensive (NOAH fabric) car cover when I thought it was cool enough to cover,
2. I've twice caught a plastic shopping bag that instantly melted to the sidepipes and the gunk was not easy to get off, and
3. Safety - I'm worried about having copilots and gawkers burned, especially small kids who like to get up close and personal to look.
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12-09-2008, 08:28 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: San Anselmo,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4400
Posts: 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stentor
It seems a bit odd that a $100k CSX 4000 aluminum roller would arrive without holes for sidepipes and you would: a) not be aware of this, and b) accept the car if you didn't want it that way.
Perhaps I am missing something.
That said, I say you've got to go with the sidepipes on this car with the current setup you described.
In any event, I am sure it will be a great car.
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Stentor,
I thought it a bit odd too!
I ordered the car a few years ago and, to be honest, didn't really know if I would ever get it. The dealer sent me a couple of photos of it, but only from the front and rear. I didn't discover the lack of sidepipe holes until it was off loaded in front of my house last December.
It probably would have cost me as much to send it back as it would to have the holes cut in the body. Besides, where would I have been then? Money back? Place another order and wait a couple of more years? I just looked at it as an opportunity to run whichever configuration I decided to use.
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12-09-2008, 11:23 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Phoenix,
AZ
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR: 302 w/aluminum heads, Edlebrock injection. Street car trim, no scoop, side pipes or rollbar.
Posts: 1,869
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"The street car is a Tuxeedo, cuff-links, and Vodka Martini shaken-not-stirred "Clean".
Ef'n Ay....
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12-09-2008, 11:50 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Oceanside,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ...
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Very Nice!
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12-11-2008, 03:26 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: San Jose CA,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF_R_/BRG/FRBoss302/327CI/FordEFI/Under_Car_Exh/
Posts: 2,523
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Doug, the pipes are 2.25" so there may be a restriction of sorts, there are heat shields provided and it seems to be OK, keep in mind i double insulated the underside of SPF2734.
there is a pinch in the pipe of sorts -- as they go through the rear sway bar.
I will take pictures and show them on SAT.
Steve
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12-11-2008, 06:10 AM
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Evryday is a roadstr day
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: North Jakarta, Indonesia,
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Cobra Make, Engine: RHD Hurricane street roadster HM1081 aging nicely in the garage
Posts: 5,725
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If you have speed bumps to cross, particularly if you fail to see them ahead of time, under car pipes take a beating. If you can run the pipes through the frame during a build, you can avoid part of that but then heat is a bit of a concern. Do the under car first then go from there....
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12-11-2008, 11:26 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Napa,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance w/452FE, FFR Spec Racer for NASA TT
Posts: 4
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Geeze, I never thought my car was that weird, but it is equipped just like yours, undercar exhaust, SC dash, hood scoop and roll bar and the incorrect (I guess) FE with turkey pan and single 4 barrel. I ordered it that way (well not the motor) from Superformance in 2001 and I've never been sorry. Lots of car (non Cobra owners) enthusiasts think the car is the "real deal" because it has no side exaust I guess the novice enthusiast doesn't get wrapped up in the hood scoop, roll bar and dash issue.
Anyway it came from SPF with cool undercar reflective panels and insulation between the floor and the pipes. I do not get excessive heat from the floor. The car is not as "macho" and maybe looks a little wimpie when compared to all the S/C striped clones, but John Q Public seems to like it just fine, as do I.
Lowell
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12-12-2008, 04:39 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Cape Town, South Africa/Mainz, Germany,
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"If you can run the pipes through the frame during a build..."
The frame used as pipes would be slick!
Dom
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